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NBC Montana
... that a Montana TV station told its network it was "on [its] own" when it came to covering a political candidate attacking a reporter? Source: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/05/montana-nbc-affiliate-refused-to-cover-gianforte-body-slam.html
Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 727 past nominations.
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:40, 3 January 2025 (UTC).
Not a particularly interesting hook as that's far from the first time somebody got upset over a network's coverage, and I've also seen other stories of reporters being attacked. I don't see what stands out about this particular case. It certainly doesn't help how this hook uses vague descriptions and needlessly hides names with WP:EASTEREGG piping. Refactoring the quote is also completely unnecessary. Try coming up with something else. On the plus side, I don't see any copyright or neutrality issues. QPQ has been provided, article is more than long enough, and was taken to DYK a day after passing its GAN. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 20:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)- Alright, let's try again, SNUGGUMS: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:19, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the owner of a Montana TV station bought an American Legion post, gutted by fire, to use as a studio building? [1]
Definitely much more intriguing! I would only make minor changes here by using a straightforward mention of Arthur Mosby (the owner alluded to) and NBC Montana's name instead of hiding the latter behind pipes. We're otherwise good to go. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 23:26, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Very hard disagree on the latter because the station was not known as NBC Montana until the 1990s. Piped links like this are standard operating procedure for me now because call signs are terrible for views. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean by "call signs", but even going with KGVO-TV (its name at the time) would be better than the vague "a Montana TV station" description used. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 00:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @SNUGGUMS: I have written at this point hundreds of radio and TV station DYKs and vehemently would disagree. There's discussion of why I've done this at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know/Statistics/Archive_2 (search "WCBR") and a few other places. It's improved the view rate on my broadcasting DYKs, some of which used to be the least-read in an entire month. I also am getting comments less from people who complain Wikipedia is running too many broadcast station hooks. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure what you mean by "call signs", but even going with KGVO-TV (its name at the time) would be better than the vague "a Montana TV station" description used. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 00:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Very hard disagree on the latter because the station was not known as NBC Montana until the 1990s. Piped links like this are standard operating procedure for me now because call signs are terrible for views. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 23:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
(Shrugs shoulders) It seems quite odd how ambiguity within hooks could somehow boost views. My instinct previously told me that readers would've instead preferred to know a specific name prior to clicking on links. Oh well. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 02:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Look at my list of DYKs in 2022 and ask yourself which half is more intriguing to read if you're not familiar with broadcasting. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- This might not be the response you expected, but I personally find the use of names (or lack thereof) didn't affect how eye-catching the hooks were, and was more intrigued by the central points each hook made. Regardless, I won't let that prevent the nomination from passing. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 03:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)