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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 November 2024

{{edit extended-protected|Zionism|answered=yes} Please change "Zionists wanted to create a Jewish state in Palestine with as much land, as many Jews, and as few Palestinian Arabs as possible.[4]" "Some historians claim that Zionists wanted to create a Jewish state in Palestine with as much land, as many Jews, and as few Palestinian Arabs as possible.[4]" Bustthatshmutz (talk) 18:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

This is already being dealt with by EC editors.Selfstudier (talk) 18:11, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 November 2024

Add to Further reading section:

Idels, Ofer. Zionism: Emotions, Language and Experience, Cambridge University Press, 2024 2001:A61:3565:C601:D927:1EB8:3917:C3EF (talk) 14:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Done. Selfstudier (talk) 14:38, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Same author https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/zionism/ Selfstudier (talk) 14:39, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 November 2024 (2)

Zionism is broken down into cultural, religious and political zionism. Religious zionism has been a core part of Judaism since the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE. As the Jewish people entered a period of diaspora and exile, the liturgy and writing after this period reflected a deep yearning to return to Zion or to Israel. This is reflected in traditional texts lime Psalms, Lamentations, Ezekiel and other books of the TaNaKh or Hebrew Bible.

Political and cultural Zionism developed in the 19th century with thought leaders like Herzl, Jabotisnksy and Ahad Ha’am. 187.157.226.150 (talk) 21:40, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Not done, that's not an edit request per WP:EDITXY (doesn't say where its supposed to go/in place of), the statement is unsourced and even if it was sourced, it would likely need multiple hq sourcing.Selfstudier (talk) 22:13, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 27 November 2024 (3)

Use of the word colonization is a misrepresentation. The entire explanation is incorrect. Anon123987 (talk) 23:51, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 23:52, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Arbitration procedure on zionism lead

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Thanks, Michael Boutboul (talk) 17:29, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Who is "You"? Selfstudier (talk) 17:32, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

The article. We just have to wait for its statement. M.Bitton (talk) 17:32, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

<- 3 months since "Does anyone, particularly those with experience with Wikipedia culture and edit wars, have any ideas about how to work collectively to counteract this?". Sean.hoyland (talk) 18:38, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Case declined as premature. Selfstudier (talk) 18:56, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Guys...The Irgun Weren't Labor Zionists

Irgun was founded by Ze'ev Jabotinsky and led for most of its history by Menachem Begin, two leaders of the Revisionist Zionist movement, the main rivals to the labor Zionists. The main labor Zionist attitude during the 1936-1939 Arab revolt in Palestine was Havlagah, or "restraint," i.e. nonviolence towards Palestinians, maintaining only self-defense if Kibbutzim were attacked. It was the position of Ben-Gurion, it was the position of Ben-Zvi, it was the position of Katznelson. Who edited this article and why did they lie so blatantly? And yes, I do accuse them of active malice, not passive ignorance. MagyarNavy1918 (talk) 18:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Source free statement. Since you are now able to edit the article yourself, feel free to edit anything you think is wrong, appropriately sourced. Selfstudier (talk) 18:10, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

"I completely agree with your assessment. The historical context you've provided about the Irgun, Revisionist Zionism, and Havlagah is accurate and well-stated. Misrepresentation of such significant details does a disservice to the article's integrity, and your critique is entirely valid. Thank you for pointing this out!"

But can you extract the text here and the proposed revision? Michael Boutboul (talk) 18:19, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Guys...we're being trolled. Might be better to ignore these posts. Levivich (talk) 18:32, 30 November 2024 (UTC)