Talk:Yuta (Japanese singer)/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Wiki Education assignment: ESL 1030 English for Academic Success

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 23 August 2022 and 16 December 2022. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Furenpi (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Furenpi (talk) 13:53, 13 October 2022 (UTC) I found three resources. https://www.gqjapan.jp/culture/article/20211107-yuta-from-nct-127-hot-prince https://more.hpplus.jp/odekake/o-news/57750/2/ https://news.kstyle.com/article.ksn?articleNo=2166543 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Furenpi (talk • contribs) 20:54, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Reviewer Note

The subject appears to pass notability. Robert McClenon (talk) 07:58, 10 June 2021 (UTC) I found three resources. https://www.gqjapan.jp/culture/article/20211107-yuta-from-nct-127-hot-prince https://more.hpplus.jp/odekake/o-news/57750/2/ https://news.kstyle.com/article.ksn?articleNo=2166543 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Furenpi (talk • contribs) 20:55, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

Requested move 27 September 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

It was proposed in this section that Yuta Nakamoto be renamed and moved to Yuta.

result:
Not moved. Closure requested at WP:CR. See consensus below to continue with this article's present title at this time. As for other proposals herein, they may be separately proposed at any time. Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; everyone stay healthy! P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^{put'er there} 14:39, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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Yuta Nakamoto → Yuta – Propose moving Yuta Nakamoto to Yuta per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC

Regarding WP:COMMONNAME rationale:

Article subject uses mononym professionally and almost all English-language sources refer to him as "Yuta" rather than full name.

- Examples: Korea Joongang Daily, Star News Korea, Hollywood Reporter, USA Today, Nikkei, L'Officiel Singapore, NME, Vogue Singapore Cosmopolitan

Regarding WP:PRIMARYTOPIC rationale:

Yuta is currently a redirect to Yūta.
- Yuta average daily redirect views: 2
- Yūta average daily page views 18
- Yuta Nakamoto average daily page views 223.

The few people looking for the name Yūta could easily be directed to their intended destination by a hatnote on the Yuta Nakamoto article. RachelTensions (talk) 02:32, 27 September 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 04:00, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Strong oppose He is clearly not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. A quick Google search confirms that. Yuta is a very common name in Japan. Furthermore, he does not meet the criteria for PT1 (long-term significance). Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 05:00, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
If that's the case then why does the redirect proposed to be usurped only have an average of 2 uses per day versus Yuta Nakamoto at 223? I'm not proposing getting rid of Yūta (which is the common name in Japan), I'm proposing not disambiguating to Yuta (Japanese singer) (which is the alternative) because we've wasted Yuta on a redirect that the data very clearly shows barely gets used. RachelTensions (talk) 05:25, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Oppose per Btspurplegalaxy. Not everybody who uses a mononym needs to have that reflected in the page title, when natural disambiguation is perfectly fine. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 20:30, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Oppose per Nkon21 and Btspurplegalaxy. Full name is sufficient for disambiguation. orangesclub 🍊 00:38, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

Comment by nominator: Why are we forced to disambiguate this article when the page title proposed to be usurped is a redirect that receives, quite literally, 113x less traffic (per pageviews tool data) than this article and could easily be replaced by a hatnote?

I don't see anything in WP:DISAMBIGUATION or WP:TITLE policy that would support disambiguating this article by not using their WP:COMMONNAME, especially when it's so clear that the redirect that is currently in place at the proposed move title is shown by traffic data as being next to useless.

Can someone point me to a policy excerpt? RachelTensions (talk) 01:01, 28 September 2024 (UTC)

I'd also point out that, out of the 14 articles we currently have for NCT members, Yuta Nakamoto is the only one to not be referred to mononomously in their article title which is inconsistent (WP:TITLECON).

If people are really attached to keeping the in place Yuta redirect page that doesn't get used, and even though Nakamoto receives 98.7% of the pageviews between them, then alternatively I'd propose:

Yuta (singer) → Yuta (Russian singer)

Yuta Nakamoto → Yuta (singer)

As Nakamoto is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC per Yuta Nakamoto receiving 92% of the pageviews between the two: [1] RachelTensions (talk) 19:59, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Support Yuta (Japanese singer). He's not the primary topic for Yuta and given the existence of the Russian singer Yuta (singer) would be incomplete disambiguation, which is best avoided. Her article should be moved to Yuta (Russian singer). -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:18, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Yuta (Japanese singer) would be an acceptable compromise from my point of view, given that the only other option that anyone has discussed is to leave the article at Nakamoto which wouldn't be accurate given it's not the subject's common name. RachelTensions (talk) 03:49, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
Support Yuta (Japanese singer) per Necrothesp. Also, Yūta should be moved to Yuta, as most of the articles on that page do not use the diacritic. Natg 19 (talk) 20:28, 18 October 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.