Talk:William Courtenay, 1st Earl of Devon

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Monument to Daughter

Does anyone know why this section is listed in William's article rather than Margaret's. Since she has her own article, which mentions it but in far less detail and not as a separate section, shouldn't it be moved there? History Lunatic (talk) 02:33, 30 August 2018 (UTC)History Lunatic[reply]

Dubious text/claim

the article says that Courtenay played a role in the defeat of Perkin Warbeck at the siege of Exeter "which secured finally the Tudor succession." However most historians would accept this was not the end of the threats to the Tudor succession, and Henry VII certainly had concerns about rival claimants afterwards. The Earl of Warwick, the senior male Plantagenet and Yorkist, was still alive, and part of the reason for his execution in 1499 was that he was seen as threat to the Tudor hold on the crown, due to his much stronger genealogical claim to the throne of England. Moreover, as the very next section notes, Courtenay himself was later involved in a "conspiracy to crown Edmund de la Pole, 3rd Duke of Suffolk". Suffolk also based his claim on his Yorkist decent (indeed his brother Lincoln had been Richard III's designated heir). Indeed even into the reign of Henry VIII there were Yorkist claimants to the throne, something Henry VIII himself worried about. I think therefore it would make sense to remove the phrase "which secured finally the Tudor succession." from this article Dunarc (talk) 20:04, 5 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]