Talk:Weezer

"Free Maladroit"

"Online Weezer fans staged a brief protest, with several websites proclaiming "Free Maladroit"."

This has needed a citation since 2008 and this isn't mentioned on Maladroit's page. I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere else, and searching for it only brings Wikipedia mirrors. Should it be removed? It's not super notable if no information can be found at all -- WeInTheUSA (talk) 19:06, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

Can't be sourced? Rip it out. Popcornfud (talk) 23:31, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

SZNZ in "Discography" section

I believe the SZNZ project needs to be included the main page's discography section, both due to how central it is to the band for 2022, and given each EP will be the length of a short LP, mentioning it just as "SZNZ" as it was before should be reimplemented. Listing each EP would be repetitive, but, again, I feel the project must be listed there since it will be one large conglomerate once complete. Squishedargarine (talk) 21:53, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

The best worst best band ever

Can the article include some mention of how Weezer is sorta an internet punching bag where a lot of fans joke about how bad the band is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scoutstheman (talk • contribs) 15:31, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

I agree, this is something noteworthy within popular culture that should he stated. Fishbowl.16 (talk) 01:44, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I'd say more on blue vs. pinkerton instead of that. After all, an SNL skit was made on the great debate. Superyoshi64 (talk) 22:21, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Music Video of Weezer’s “Buddy Holly” Was Included On The Windows 95 Install CD

Surprised this little piece of trivia was not included in this page, but the music video for "Buddy Holly" was included in the Windows 95 CD-ROM. Incidentally, that's how I discovered Weezer. ~~~~ AcrophobicEagle (talk) 17:18, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

True big moment for internet and music. Superyoshi64 (talk) 22:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

WWE?

What happened to the page? 2603:7000:C53F:F89B:9DDC:571D:FCDD:8A89 (talk) 17:15, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Someone tried to be funny I guess, so now we have to protect the page. Shame. Schminnte (talk • contribs) 18:04, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Death date

(courtesy pings @Sock @Popcornfud)

In regards to the removal of the death date of Welsh, it does seem to be a standard across other band pages to include death dates even if it did come later than them leaving the band. You can see it at The Beatles where Lennon, Harrison, etc have their death dates listed even though they're sometimes up to decades after leaving the band. Same with The Kinks, Fountains of Wayne, etc DeputyBeagle (talk) 21:43, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

@DeputyBeagle This feels like a prime example of WP:OTHERSTUFF, as I can't find any established precedent for including this information and the presence of it in other articles is the only rationale you've presented. I personally don't see how a former member's death date/year has any relevance to a band's article, especially when that member has their own article (as is the case here). I get including it for band articles like Joy Division, Avenged Sevenfold, or Slipknot when the member's death ended their tenure, but if a person was a member of a band for a few months in the early 2000s and died tomorrow, what does "died 2023" add for someone trying to learn about the band? Sock (tock talk) 22:04, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree, I see it as irrelevant here and in other articles that do it too. The graph is supposed to indicate tenure, not lifetime. You might as well include the person's birth date. Popcornfud (talk) 22:10, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

I wouldn't say calling it WP:OTHERSTUFF is fair. I'm arguing more WP:SSEFAR. Setting aside for a moment whether it's good or bad, there is provably an established precedent for it in almost every other band article.

In terms of its actual value in articles like this, I think it shows why the timeline ends up looking how it does. Helps explain why they didn't rejoin the band later, or join in reunions, etc - as well as providing a glance at the status of the members now in who's alive and who's not. DeputyBeagle (talk) 22:51, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Explaining why people leave bands should be handled in prose though. Popcornfud (talk) 22:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps, but I don't see the problem with having the info accessible in brief

And again, it appearing there is established in almost every article about bands. If you don't think it should be there, I'd suggest you go to WP:WPMUSIC and argue for changing the precendent, instead of just maintaing this one as different from all the others DeputyBeagle (talk) 23:19, 24 January 2024 (UTC)

I strongly disagree that there's even a precedent in need of change just because there are articles that include these death dates. That position hinges entirely on the anecdotal "a lot of other articles do it" (which still very much comes off as OTHERSTUFF in my opinion), but given that there's no rule or policy anywhere about whether or not these deaths are relevant, I don't see how there's any argument that needs to be made outside of the death date's relevance to this article.

On that subject, I also disagree with your follow up argument about informing the timeline of membership and explaining why members don't join for reunions, as that angle implies that a person's death is the only reason that person didn't rejoin or return to a band. Most members who leave bands don't return, and death is only one reason that might be. I support including a former member's death in prose if the band commented on through a statement or something, as it currently appears in this article, but I still fail to see a death date's value in regards to a member who hadn't been in the band for a decade. Sock (tock talk) 17:27, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

I'm genuinely very confused how you can see that almost every page of this type has this info and not think there's an unwritten precedent for this?

It's hardly an OTHERSTUFF argument to call upon precedent that's firmly established elsewhere in everything from small articles to featured articles. Again WP:SSEFAR

The death dates are relevant to this page because this page is about the band and its members and it's important to the story of the band that it's noted DeputyBeagle (talk) 15:02, 26 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 September 2024

Superyoshi64 (talk) 22:20, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

The awards section is not updated. In 2023, they were nominated for Best Alternative Artist for IHeart Radio Music Awards. Might be other nominations that have been missed over the years.

Done Rainsage (talk) 23:32, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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