Talk:Victor Wembanyama/Archive 1

Archive 1

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2023

Victor us now 7'5 https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/victor-wembanyama-ridiculous-new-height/611778 Raiderfan2431 (talk) 17:17, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Victor is now 7'5 Raiderfan2431 (talk) 17:18, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

 Not done for now: According to this source, his "new" height is yet to be confirmed. M.Bitton (talk) 14:56, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Is there any other proof Victor said this? It takes more than an unknown french website to prove that ESPN is either lying or has bad sources 73.75.249.102 (talk) 12:50, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

He's 7'4, not 7'2

According to his recent height measurements, he is 7'4 with an 8'0 wingspan. Please change this. Source: https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/268550/Victor-Wembanyama-Measures-7-Foot-4 73.75.249.102 (talk) 12:45, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

There's no consensus that RealGM is reliable (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Basketball Association/Archive 44 § Realgm.com). Why should we discount his current team's listing?—Bagumba (talk) 12:52, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

LNB still lists him at 219 cm, which is what we keep until he is officially measured at the NBA Draft Combine. --bender235 (talk) 16:45, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Victor Wembanyama/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Oltrepier (talk · contribs) 11:26, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello! I'm planning to start this review very soon, ideally later today or tomorrow. From what I've seen so far, I think the promotion of this article won't be a long shot at all, because it looks great already. Oltrepier (talk) 11:26, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Final comments

@Sportzeditz: Right, I haven't got much to say, really, because the article looks excellent! Overall, you did a great job in providing reliable sources, following WP:MOS and structuring the article properly, so I definitely enjoyed reading the whole page. The article is, of course, broad and stable, and despite all of the hype surrounding Wembanyama at the moment, you managed to keep the page as neutral as possible, so that's another positive. All of the images included look fine, too.

I did notice just a few minor issues with punctuation and links, but I've mostly fixed them by myself. What I've got left to say is that a few phrases might still need to be re-tooled, and especially one from the Nanterre 92 paragraph comes to mind:

"In October, Wembanyama featured in a viral video, where at age 16, he showcased his skills in a two-on-two pick-up game against Rudy Gobert, one of the top defensive players in the world, and Vincent Poirier."

Gobert's skills are already well-known and can be found on his own article, anyway. Plus, specifying Victor's age doesn't feel necessary here. So, I would change the sentence like this: "In October of the same year, Wembanyama featured in a viral video where he showcased his skills in a two-on-two pick-up game against Rudy Gobert and Vincent Poirier." Is that OK?

Finally, I would suggest you to add one more "third-party" reference for the player's signings with ASVEL and Metropolitans 92, respectively, just to be safer.

I hope my suggestions will be clear and useful enough. Thank you for this nomination! Oltrepier (talk) 16:28, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

@Oltrepier: I have edited the sentence above and added more references to each signing. Sportzeditz (talk) 16:58, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

@Sportzeditz: And that should be enough to promote the article. Thank you, and congratulations! Oltrepier (talk) 17:53, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 March 2023

change height to 7'4" 2406:2D40:41CA:8510:DCE1:AA1A:FB67:B5A7 (talk) 13:33, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:44, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

LNB still lists Wembanyama at 219 cm, which is what we keep until he is officially measured at the NBA Draft Combine. --bender235 (talk) 19:33, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Suggestion: emphasizing Tony Parker's role in early career

I suggest emphasizing TP's role in Wembanyama's early career, as he has been a mentor for him. But also emphasize a sort of rupture between the two, with Wemby's move from ASVEL to Boulogne-Levallois, and Parker's comments about it maybe not being the best choice (would've progressed more playing regularly in the Euroleague)

Sources: https://fadeawayworld.net/nba-media/2023-nba-draft-prospect-victor-wembanyama-reflects-on-his-relationship-with-tony-parker-he-was-like-a-mentor

https://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/basket/jeep-elite/basket-tony-parker-ne-sait-pas-si-wembanyama-a-vraiment-progresse-cette-saison_AV-202304030466.html

Thanks guys! 26Belhanda (talk) 10:08, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

NBA draft

Would it make sense to add a line or two explaining eligibility for the draft rules? (I guess there's an age floor?) Might be helpful to readers unfamiliar with the NBA or American basketball nuance. jengod (talk) 02:20, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

That's what the article NBA draft is for. --bender235 (talk) 18:10, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Updated stats

the stats uploaded currently under "career statistics" are outdated and make him look much worse than he really is. The subpage "career statistics should be updated with recent nunbers 2600:1700:6062:2480:86A7:3A2C:6CE0:702A (talk) 03:24, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

The stats currently listed are for the EuroLeague, but he's not in that league this season. —Bagumba (talk) 05:16, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

in that case, his stats played in other leagues should be included as well, similarly to the stats listed for the luka doncic Wikipedia page. Not sure how to do this but here is a source for it

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wembavi01.html 2600:1700:6062:2480:801B:7691:4FBF:8B10 (talk) 16:41, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2023

His second name is Longa 186.99.107.210 (talk) 20:46, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 00:45, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Youth career

I could be interesting to add int his youth career that: « in May 2013, he won the national inter-committee tournament with the Hauts-de-Seine selection alongside Bilal Coulibaly, future teammate at Metropolitans 92 and number 7 in the NB draft. » Multiple sources and videos available (mostly in French), for instance: https://www.bebasket.fr/wembanyama-coulibaly/ Sakhr ACV (talk) 18:16, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

His heights is 7’3.5”

The spurs just did official measurements, his actual height is 7’3.5” Rocknroll87 (talk) 20:22, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

See below at #Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2023.—Bagumba (talk) 06:53, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

Height

His real height is 2.26 Pooriya93p (talk) 04:16, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Maybe. But what matters is what LNB lists as of right now. --bender235 (talk) 23:01, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

If you are referring to the infobox, the field is displayed as "Listed height".—Bagumba (talk) 11:03, 29 January 2023 (UTC)

The NBA is officially listing him at 7 feet, 3.5 inches, based on a measurement by the Spurs without sneakers on. Now, it seems a little silly to measure without shoes considering they are never actually playing barefoot, but that is their standard for all players as they enter the league from the draft. This makes Victor the second tallest player in the NBA, behind Boban Marjanovic (7'4) and ahead Kristaps Porzingas (7'3)</ref>https://www.nba.com/news/victor-wembanyama-officially-listed-at-7-foot-3-5-inches-tall</ref> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.91.83 (talk) 02:37, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 July 2023

change Listed height from 7 feet 5 inches (2.26 meter) to 7 feet and 3.5 inches (2.22 meter)

Nicoltruter (talk) 17:12, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

 Done Xan747 (talk) 17:43, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2023

Listed by NBA as 7’3 1/2 47.219.5.75 (talk) 21:24, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 05:47, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

A source is here. However, he's not technically "listed" anywhere as that (yet). NBA.com still shows him as 7'5".[1] Historically, the league hasn't listed w/ 1⁄2 either, so it's interesting to see if they round up or down, or start a new trend. I don't oppose some update in the article, but it's nuanced at this point, and not straightforward.—Bagumba (talk) 06:24, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

The (inofficial) 7-3+1⁄2 measurement by the Spurs was bare foot. NBA.com lists in shoes, so I expect Wembanyama's listed height to remain 7-5 for the foreseeable future. --bender235 (talk) 17:58, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Actually, the NBA started measuring w/o shoes a few years ago. —Bagumba (talk) 18:13, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Measuring yes, but players are still listed with their in-shoes height. For example, Amen Thompson was measured 6-5+3⁄4 at the NBA combine, but is listed at 6-7 on NBA.com. --bender235 (talk) 20:14, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

No, the NBA claims it's w/o shoes.[2] Still, not sure when between now and start of season that teams required to certify and list.—Bagumba (talk) 21:35, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

If that's true must be a coincidence how every current rookie is listed 1 to 1+1⁄2 inches taller than his NBA combine bare-foot measurement, I guess. --bender235 (talk) 20:58, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Brittany Spears incident

Should the Brittany Spears incident be added to Victor's article? It's been covered by AP News, ESPN, BBC, Yahoo Sports, The New York Times, etc. HappyBoi3892 (talk) 01:33, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

I'd be wary of WP:NOTDIARY and WP:RECENTISM. —Bagumba (talk) 01:46, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 October 2023

change "7'4" to "7'3" victor has been measured by the NBA at 7'3.5 not 7'4 therefore this would be nonfactual stating he's 7'4 please change this. Source: https://www.nba.com/news/victor-wembanyama-officially-listed-at-7-foot-3-5-inches-tall 75.6.195.52 (talk) 23:40, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

 Done (bojo)(they/them)(talk) 23:44, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Can you please also change in the beginning of the article where it states: 7 feet 4 inches (2.24 metres), Wembanyama is tied with Boban Marjanović as the tallest active NBA player. And change this to: 7 feet 3.5 inches (2.22 metres), Wembanyama is slightly shorter than Boban Marjanović as the 2nd tallest active NBA player. Valimity (talk) 23:56, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2023 (2)

I have seen my edit has been changed by user:ActivBowser9177. What he states is that nba.com states him as 7'4 not 7'3.5, but while on his page it does state that he's 7'4 in a recent article made by the nba (https://www.nba.com/news/victor-wembanyama-officially-listed-at-7-foot-3-5-inches-tall) showed he's 7'3.5 without shoes, and all nba players are measured without shoes so its likely a error missed by a nba employee. So please change it back to: "7'3.5 (2.22 meters)" 75.6.195.52 (talk) 14:52, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done. Just because the nba.com article stated that he was 7' 3.5" barefoot doesn't mean that the Wikipedia page should have him listed as such, as it is very substandard to have a player's height listed in the decimals; many sports sources always rounds a player's height (including the heights of NBA players) to the nearest inch, therefore his Wikipedia page's height in the infobox should not be listed at 7' 3.5", but rather 7' 4" because that's what his official profile on NBA.com lists him at (while 7' 3.5" should also be rounded up to 7' 4" too). ActivBowser9177 (talk) 15:41, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 October 2023

in the beginning of the article where it states: "7 feet 4 inches (2.24 metres), Wembanyama is tied with Boban Marjanović as the tallest active NBA player." ***Change this to: "7 feet 3.5 inches (2.22 metres), Wembanyama is slightly shorter than Boban Marjanović as the 2nd tallest active NBA player." The source has already been put in from my recent edit request therefore it is unneeded to put it in there a second time. 75.6.195.52 (talk) 14:38, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

 Not done: The source commonly used for a player's height is their official NBA profile, which currently reports his height as 7'4" (2.24m). As explained in the section below, this measurement is rounded to the nearest inch when reported by the NBA. Unless the NBA changes their reported height for Wembanyama, it should remain. -- Pinchme123 (talk) 18:38, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Weight And Height

According to the San Antonio spurs espn depth chart and stats, it says that wemby is 102 kg or 225 lbs, 2.21 meters or 7 feet 3 inches Wikiuserererer (talk) 02:46, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

• NBA.com still says 7-4, 210. --bender235 (talk) 21:09, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

  Even when the updated height and weight from Spurs.com is 7'3", 230lbs the day before Opening Day. Nbagigafreak (talk) 09:59, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

What is his 3pt shot

3pointshot 68.80.57.192 (talk) 05:48, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Spelling error

Under his spurs career, it says 'eightht double-double' 2001:8003:8887:AB00:2D36:F038:317C:F877 (talk) 05:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

 Fixed ^{Dieter Lloyd Wexler} 05:28, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Name pronunciation

Want to update (english) pronunciation to /ˌwɛmbɛnˈjɑːmʌ/ wem-ben-YAH-muh based off of official NBA pronunciation. Jklaus123 (talk) 16:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 January 2024

Change weight from 210 lbs to 230 lbs. Source listed below

https://m.basketnews.com/news-195630-victor-wembanyamas-new-weight-revealed.html 2603:6080:8905:1F3A:BD54:B99F:1427:73 (talk) 03:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: Per WP:NBAWEIGHT. ^{Dieter Lloyd Wexler} 03:22, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2024

Wemby has played most of his minutes at center this season so it's time to change him to a center. Source: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wembavi01.html

Click play by play Chapped two (talk) 02:33, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. I'm not sure what you want changed, since his position in the infobox already notes he plays center. --- Pinchme123 (talk) 16:45, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2024

Change “win over the Los Angeles Lakers” to “loss to Los Angeles Lakers”

in Professional Career category Lemmeknow123 (talk) 17:36, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: no reason given for the proposed change. M.Bitton (talk) 18:31, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Someone has since fixed it.[3] —Bagumba (talk) 04:09, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2024

Changing Victor Wembanyama to Victor Longa Wembanyama Herb.roscoe (talk) 16:38, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamedeus (talk) 20:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2024

Not sure where this would go, but Wembanyama tied Walker Kessler and Brook Lopez for the most blocks in a single quarter (6) on 2/12/2024. Thomasbeem (talk) 08:50, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Thickynugnug (talk) 03:59, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

References