Talk:Valentín Carboni

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A fact from Valentín Carboni appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 February 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Valentín Carboni played in the same three youth teams as his brother Franco before they both received their first call-up to the Argentine senior national team in March 2022?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/February. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Valentín Carboni.

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GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Valentín Carboni/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Dr Salvus (talk · contribs) 23:17, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'll take care of this, it's brief and I need to get points for the WikiCup. Dr Salvus 23:17, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Comments

Probably not everyone knows what Primavera team is, better having "under-19".
I love FT Scout but it's a blog, unreliable source.
Trasfermarkt is user-generated, another unrieliable source.
"He has also got" "He also has"
Probably there's no possibility to have sources because we're talking on a 17-yo player.

That's what I have. Dr Salvus 23:17, 3 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr Salvus I've just edited the article by following your instructions, thank you.

However, I wanted to discuss some of the points you made, just for clarity:

- For now, I've kept the "Primavera" term in order to avoid making the adjacent phrases sound too redundant. Maybe, I could even delete the following line completely, couldn't I?

[ "while keeping featuring for the Primavera squad in the national league and in the UEFA Youth League" ]

- I've kept the Transfermarkt quote, as well, because it doesn't refer to the player's profile; it's rather a full article on him, written as part of a yearly series they publish on the site's news section. Is it OK, or should I remove it anyway?

- Actually, there's already a good amount of articles about him: apart from The Guardian, La Gazzetta dello Sport and Olé, which are all already included in the references, I've also noticed some articles from Eurosport and (hopefully) other reliable sources. I'd probably have to trim some of the other current citations, though...

Let me know what you think about it! Oltrepier (talk) 10:39, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That Trasfermarkt looks like to be a blog, so no. Dr Salvus 11:41, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Dr Salvus Right, I've just removed that link entirely. Oltrepier (talk) 12:51, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. Dr Salvus 16:45, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 08:40, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Valentín Carboni played together with his brother Franco in the same three youth teams before they both received their first call-up to the Argentine senior national team in March 2022? Source: Argentina's head coach, 'Lionel' Scaloni, has included both of them in the preliminary list for the matches against Venezuela and Ecuador: who are the Carboni brothers. ... Ezequiel Carboni 'was' appointed as the coach of 'Catania's' under-19 team, with one minimum requirement: his sons, Franco and Valentín, 'had' to leave Lanus' youth academy to join Catania. ... At the end of 2019, Catania 'let' first-team players go due to their heavy financial struggles, and between the transfers that 'could' help 'them' reduce the debt, there 'was' also the one involving the Carboni brothers, 'who were' sold to Inter.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Serie A Player of the Month
- Comment: I hope I haven't made a mess while quoting the source, but I'm more than willing to enter it again, if that was the case. Oh, and just to clarify, I translated and re-adapted the original Italian quote, in order to make it clearer and smoother to read. I can't wait to get your feedback on my nomination!

Improved to Good Article status by Oltrepier (talk). Self-nominated at 22:20, 7 January 2023 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: @Oltrepier: Good article. Just want to mention but your qpq isn't a qpq since you didn't review the nomination. Rather, you just commented on it. Though you don't need a QPQ for this nom so your good regardless. Onegreatjoke (talk) 03:05, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Onegreatjoke: Thank you so much for reviewing and approving my nomination: I didn't expect to pass the first step so quickly! Thanks for clarifying QPQ requirements, as well: I guess the reviewer is rather the first user to comment on the nomination, right? Finally, something I didn't mention before: the source I entered is already included in the nominated article (citation n° 6, to be precise). I don't know how relevant this might be, but still, I wanted to add it. I'm ready to get feedback on the hook now! Oltrepier (talk) 13:33, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]