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Cut from another article

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It should be made clear that the meat and bones of this article were cut from Nigger, an article I once had a go at improving. Here's the diff. With the re-titling of this article, it's a little hard to follow the edit history. Carbon Caryatid (talk) 10:06, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Christie

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"Ten Little Niggers was the original title of Agatha Christie's 1939 detective novel, named for a children's counting-out game familiar in England at that date; it was renamed first to Ten Little Indians and then in the early 1980s to And Then There Were None."

This is not really correct, at least not precise. The first appearance in print was a serialization in The Saturday Evening Post (U.S.) under the title And Then They Were None, beginning in May 1939. The first edition of the book was in November 1939 in the UK under the title Ten Little Niggers. In January 1940 it appeared in the U.S., again as And Then They Were None. The novel has never appeared in print under the title of Ten Little Indians.

However, in the text of the novel, the niggers and also the location (Nigger Island) were changed to injuns and Injun Island in U.S. editions as a serial and as a book from the first appearance on. In the UK, the "niggers" and "Nigger Island" remained for a long time.

The title Ten Little Indians did never apply to the novel but it did appear as the title of the U.S. stage adoption since 1944 (first appearance).--Mautpreller (talk) 09:33, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Should we include Negro in the arts too?

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Negro also has historic, artistic significance & common use until being stigmatized around late 1990s. Should we include uses of the word Negro in this article? It was a common respectable term, e.g. , in MLK, Malcolm X & Booker T. Washington speeches Tonymetz 💬 18:47, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Web page does not italicize „nigger“

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Google does not change „nigger“ to its italicized version, losing the nuance of the title.


Perhaps it would be a good idea to change the title of the article from the clause „use of nigger in the arts“ to „use of the word nigger in the arts“ because a singular misinterpreted consonant changes the original to „Use of niggers in the arts“ which is problematic because even if the original text does not represent this meaning, it will be read as such due to the quick nature of a scrolling reader‘s attention.

Additionally, this does not significantly change the meaning of the title, so the idea behind is not altered. 38.44.168.62 (talk) 04:48, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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