Talk:Universal manhood suffrage
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Requested move
[edit]"male" seems to be a more appropriate designation.
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- OPPOSE, not all males have suffrage, as the articles states it, only males of majority have suffrage. 132.205.45.148 19:30, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose - although a clumsy and possibly giggle-inducing term, it does appear to be correct (google). Rd232 talk 12:23, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- OpposeDespite not liking how the word sounds, I think it IS the correct word here.81.99.198.116 12:35, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
- Oppose. Current name is correct. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 02:03, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
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[edit]It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. WhiteNight T | @ | C 03:02, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
Merging with Universal suffrage
[edit]According to multiple opinions at Talk:One man, one vote#Splitting proposal between One man, one vote and One person, one vote it seems One man, one vote and One person, one vote are same concept. Then it makes senso to merge Universal manhood suffrage into Universal suffrage. HudecEmil (talk) 18:47, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
- They are the same concept because until quite recently "man" could be understood as "human being" / "person" of any gender. But "Universal manhood suffrage" is a different concept from "Universal suffrage" because one half of humanhood is excluded. Rsk6400 (talk) 09:41, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- In the 1820s and 1830s United States, the goal was to extend voting rights to all adult white males (which was actually a wider electorate than most other countries in the world at that time). I don't think this limited reform should be confused with later wider reforms. AnonMoos (talk) 20:21, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- Just to add: Not only was the electorate wider, but the laws were also more racist than in most other countries. Rsk6400 (talk) 20:53, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
- The exact laws depended on the individual state. Racially homogeneous countries in the 1820s and 1830s didn't even face the issue. AnonMoos (talk) 21:32, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- "Racially inhomogeneous" ? The correct term used by historians for most of the American South is "slave society". But we are off topic. Rsk6400 (talk) 14:04, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- There were few slaves in the Northern States of the U.S. in the 1820s and the 1830s, and they were mostly getting kind of old... If you take pleasure in smugly condemning what you don't know much about, please do so at a location other than a Wikipedia article talk page. AnonMoos (talk) 06:17, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
- "Racially inhomogeneous" ? The correct term used by historians for most of the American South is "slave society". But we are off topic. Rsk6400 (talk) 14:04, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
- The exact laws depended on the individual state. Racially homogeneous countries in the 1820s and 1830s didn't even face the issue. AnonMoos (talk) 21:32, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
- Just to add: Not only was the electorate wider, but the laws were also more racist than in most other countries. Rsk6400 (talk) 20:53, 4 July 2022 (UTC)