Talk:Topps/Archives/2012

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The list of annual baseball card sets seems singularly useless. This is an encyclopedia, not a collector's catalog. Adding content discussing the evolution of Topps issues (high-numbers, traded sets, etc.) would be another matter. --Michael Snow 19:43, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I agree. wikipedia is not a collection of trivia (or at least, it shouldn't be!).

Featured?

I wonder if this is a candidate for featured article status. We could add information on mistakes Topps has made over the years as well as practical jokes played on Topps (the most famous being Bob Uecker posing from the wrong side of the plate on purpose). Any thoughts? --Woohookitty 05:41, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I'm sure there are still worthwhile things that could be added. If you're interested in getting it featured, you could try putting it through Wikipedia:Peer review for comments first. --Michael Snow 19:25, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Before we submit this for FAC, I suggest we beef up the non-sports aspects of Topps, like Topps Comics and the other card sets (Garbage Pail Kids, etc). Gamaliel 20:11, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Oh yeah, it needs work. I just feel like it's a possibility. But yes, we would need to include their football, basketball sets...Star Wars, etc. I can see what I can find in cyberland. Has to be a comprehensive Topps site out there somewhere. --Woohookitty 22:38, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Sports Internet Destination comments

Hello. I can see that a lot of work has been put into this page. It looks good. I would like to work with others that may be interested in regard to building up other sports collectibles pages, because I find that in this category overall very little has still been done on Wikipedia, and there will be a community site devoted to this topic also. Thanks. I'm new here, hope I did this right. Thanks. User:Sports Internet Destination!

Hi. A couple of questions. Why is Topps feature (and this looks very informative) detailed but other leading sports collectibles companies are non-existant or sparse? What is the best way to get response to discussion points or questions (write something interesting is my guess). Also, I placed this near the top of the section (below the previous post) as it is a newer comment, but want to make sure we are following etiquette in that regard (apologize if any mistake). Final question, does Wikipedia keep any statistics on how often pages have been viewed in total by visitors? Hope not too many questions! Thanks. Alex Hammer, CEO

Talk pages are generally maintained in chronological order with the newest posts on the bottom. Topps is effectively the oldest and most widely documented company in the business, so it's the easiest to write about, plus it's simply what people have chosen to work on so far.

Page views are logged and statistics could be generated, but since we're here to provide information, not host advertising, there's less reason to look at the data for each individual page. Finding out where the page comes up in search engine results would do just as well for most purposes, should anybody care. Accordingly, content added to the page should be informative rather than purely commercial. No disrespect intended, but your site doesn't really seem to fit that description. --Michael Snow 20:23, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Topps may sell gum for good TheDeal.com via Yahoo! News Mon, 18 Apr 2005 2:00 AM PDT The maker of baseball trading cards and Bazooka bubble gum is considering strategic alternatives. (This is a full press story that we found that talks about the possible upcoming break-up of Topps. Sports Internet Destination!)

Spelling note

There's no exclamation point on the trading-card series Mars Attacks, as seen on the wrapper (and on the story card, #54 I believe) on this page of Norm Saunders' site http://www.normansaunders.com/MrzAtx%2C01.html The exclam pt is only on the movie title. -- Tenebrae 04:23, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Staying on topic

While it's frequently necessary to discuss other companies, or general characteristics of sports cards, this is supposed to be an article specifically about Topps. I've moved one paragraph to baseball card because it was primarily discussing regional cards rather than Topps cards, and I anticipate relocating more content on similar principles. In particular, that applies to a fair amount of the section on error cards, such as cataloging the various types of errors that are possible, as opposed to specific cases from Topps. And mentioning Billy Ripken is totally gratuitous here. --Michael Snow 07:26, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Most of that section is now at error card. --Michael Snow 21:51, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Cleanup Coming

This article is in need of some major editing in my opinion. It is too long, there are too many unsourced statements, and to many pieces of extraneous information. I'm going to be doing it a little bit at a time but would love some help. //Tecmobowl 05:12, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Most of the length was due to the addition of multiple paragraphs on Topps's various baseball releases. It wasn't really integrated into the flow of the article and is too much detail at this point, given that the article was pushing the limits of reasonable length already. The topic is covered in the section "Topps in the modern baseball card industry" with a brief summary, which is more appropriate for the depth of the article. I've copied the text thus removed (with a brief introductory paragraph) to Topps baseball card products, which is now listed under "See also". I encourage people to go there and work on it, as I agree that it needs sources and a fair amount of polishing. --Michael Snow 06:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Passage removed

In some cases, Topps seemed to hold out on cards of players in order to include them in "Traded" set. In 1986, for example, Todd Worrell was held out of the regular set for inclusion in the "Traded" set, in spite of playing a significant role in the 1985 St. Louis Cardinals pennant drive.

I removed this recent addition, which doesn't have a source and might or might not have any connection to reality. By the very nature of producing cards, there are judgment calls about whom to include or exclude, and I don't think this particular case is so noteworthy as to require comment. When things are more clearcut, such as contractual situations or obvious errors, it's easier to support and involves less editorializing. It's tempting to speculate for other cases, especially if you were collecting then and that was your favorite player or team, but not really suited for this article. --Michael Snow 19:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Venezuela

Someone added text about the sale of high-series 1950s cards in Venezuela as if it contradicted the story about unsold cards being dumped in the Atlantic. It wasn't supported by any source or reference, and I've never heard of it before. What I've seen on Venezuelan sales is a bit later, and in the context of contracting with a local company to print/distribute cards there (much like O-Pee-Chee in Canada).

I'd agree if it was simply a matter of skepticism about the tugboat dumping a bunch of Mickey Mantle rookies overboard. I've never seen the story addressed in any context that wasn't basically a credulous repetition, but it is at least an important piece of folklore. But it's not a great fit at its current spot in the article, and we should find a way to integrate it more appropriately. --Michael Snow (talk) 16:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Request

I'm not sure where you should put this, but Club Penguin Card-Jitsu trading cards need to be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.157.48.157 (talk) 13:20, 20 November 2010 (UTC)