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The official title is "Tomb Raider: Chronicles" with the colon
[edit]The official website of the game from 2000 (archived here) gives "Tomb Raider: Chronicles" with the colon as the official title of the game. The use of "Tomb Raider Chronicles" without the colon for the game seems to have arisen due to a confusion with the Tomb Raider Chronicles website which was started in 2000, the same year the game was released, and which, however, is not the official website of the game Tomb Raider: Chronicles but a fansite whose aim is to collect key news and other information and material about the whole Tomb Raider series. Æo (talk) 12:26, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
P.S. Also the official game manual for the PC version (uploaded here) gives "Tomb Raider: Chronicles" with the colon as the title (n.b. the uploaded file's title does not use the colon, probably due to a simplification made by the person who uploaded it).--Æo (talk) 16:24, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
The article's title has been changed on 22 September 2023, at 15:47, from "Tomb Raider Chronicles" to "Tomb Raider: Chronicles" according to the foregoing.--Æo (talk) 16:31, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Rhain (talk · contribs) 00:30, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
I'll take this one! Expect some comments shortly. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 00:30, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
Lead and infobox
[edit]- Remove full stops from footnotes, as they are sentence fragments
- Consider listing the platforms with {{ubl}}, per template documentation
- The PlayStation, Windows release dates should probably be split per platform, considering the different EU and NA dates
- Unlink video game
- Windows and Dreamcast → Windows, and Dreamcast
Gameplay
[edit]- Unlink video game
- four locations; → four locations:
- Link Tomb Raider in the first paragraph's last sentence, and unlink in the second paragraph's first
- She can search the area → Lara can search the area
- far off areas → distant areas
- themes and mechanics; → themes and mechanics:
- Russian levels includes → Russian levels include (or Russian level includes)
Plot
[edit]- I don't think the reference is necessary in the first paragraph
- Unlink Rome
- submarine and wounding → submarine, and wounding
Development and release
[edit]- speaking in a 2016 retrospective on the Core Design Tomb Raider games → speaking in 2016 or remove entirely
- Consider removing In a different interview,
- Final Fantasy IX and Dark Earth → Dark Earth and Final Fantasy IX
- gameplay theme; Rome → gameplay theme: Rome
- PC version → Windows version
- second disc. This was done as → second disc, as
- There were several continuity errors—unless I'm missing something, the ref only explicitly refers to one
- not referring to the original game's script beforehand—according to Sandham, it seems more like he didn't refer to it "properly", not that he didn't refer at all
- very short → short
- Windows and Dreamcast → Windows, and Dreamcast
- Consider removing of that year
- promotional ads → promotional advertisements
- November 24 → 24 November
- December 15 → 15 December
Reception
[edit]- GameRankings is generally discouraged if Metacritic is available per WP:VGAGG, but these scores are quite different so I'll leave it to you
- Review table:
- Replace {{Rating}} with plain text (e.g.
{{Rating|3|5}}
→3/5
) per WP:VG/REC- done.
- The table seems to imply Edge gave three scores per platform, not one overall; consider removing
- The Next Generation and X-Play reviews either need to be added in prose or removed from the table
- They were being used. They were the NextGen and Extended Play reviews. I've adjusted them to be more obvious.
- Oops, that's my bad—I wasn't aware of their name changes. Feel free to restore the original version—perhaps even consider custom parameters to use the contemporary names. ☔
- They were being used. They were the NextGen and Extended Play reviews. I've adjusted them to be more obvious.
- Replace {{Rating}} with plain text (e.g.
- These paragraphs appear to be grouped by platform, but it's a little confusing to follow
- The second paragraph doesn't make it clear that it's discussing the PlayStation version until the second sentence
- The third paragraph starts with PlayStation reviews, but has two non-specific reviews in between
- I've done my best to better deliniate; general reviews in their own paragraph, PlayStation paragraph clearly shown.
- That's pretty much exactly what I was looking for, thanks! ☔
- I've done my best to better deliniate; general reviews in their own paragraph, PlayStation paragraph clearly shown.
- Second paragraph:
- despite having improved graphics and a good story, the controls → the game had improved graphics and a good story but the controls
- graphics, praising its details and level design → graphics, details, and level design
- but again noted → but noted (or but similarly noted)
- Third paragraph:
- varied opinions; → varied opinions:
- Reinier → Reiner
- Mcnamara → McNamara
- very negative → negative
- releases. All reviewers → releases, and all reviewers
- Fourth paragraph:
- the Dreamcast version of The Last Revelation → The Last Revelation's Dreamcast version
- praised it as graphically → praised the Dreamcast version as graphically, and from the PlayStation version → from the PlayStation
- Official Dreamcast Magazine (UK) → Official Dreamcast Magazine (UK)
- Fifth paragraph:
- Eurogamer, → Eurogamer's John Bye
- mixed on of → mixed on
- grown up → grown
- positive generally → generally positive
- every year → yearly
- its series decline and its formula → its decline and formula
Legacy
[edit]- Italicise (or, rather, unitalicise) Tomb Raider: The Angel of Darkness in the hatnote using
|l1=
- The Angel of Darkness released in 2003 → The Angel of Darkness (2003)
- reception and lead to Eidos taking the property → reception, leading Eidos to take the property
References
[edit]- From this revision:
- Ref 2: consider adding the English title using
|trans-title=
- Ref 2: author is Seiji Nakamura
- Ref 14, 44: remove
|author=
- WHy did you want me to remove the IGN interview author? The multiple authors for the EGM one I get, but the other's credited at the bottom of the article.
- Nothing wrong with either of those; I was referring to "Edge staff" in the two Edge refs (now #13 and 43 in this revision). Looks like you've addressed the first; I'll catch the second on my way out. ☔
- WHy did you want me to remove the IGN interview author? The multiple authors for the EGM one I get, but the other's credited at the bottom of the article.
- Ref 21 and 22: author is Ash Kapriyelov, consider removing (fan site)
- The reason I used these is because they were accepted in the article for Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation, and the policy on fan sites as I've experienced it is that they're usable for interviews with original staff members. I can remove them if absolutely necessary, but it would part-gut the development section.
- Sorry, I should have been clearer; I was specifically referring to the mention of "(fan site)" in
|website=
, as it looks inconsistent with the other refs. Considering using Core-Design.com instead. ☔
- Sorry, I should have been clearer; I was specifically referring to the mention of "(fan site)" in
- The reason I used these is because they were accepted in the article for Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation, and the policy on fan sites as I've experienced it is that they're usable for interviews with original staff members. I can remove them if absolutely necessary, but it would part-gut the development section.
- Ref 34: author is Amer Ajami, date is 18 August 2000, add
|url-status=live
- Ref 40, 41, 42: considering combining using one link, add
|publisher=
- Ref 66: italicise Tomb Raider in parentheses
- Some changes to publishers:
- Ref 5, 28, 30: add
|publisher=
(whether you add the contemporary ZDNet or current Fandom, Inc. is up to you) - Ref 7, 8, 29: add
|publisher=Ziff Davis
- Ref 20: Ziff Davis → ZDNet and link
- Ref 24: remove Irish Times Trust, considering adding
|agency=PA Media
- Ref 31, 62, 65: replace
|website=
with|publisher=
- Ref 32: add
|publisher=Eidos Interactive
- Ref 33, 44: Future Publishing → Future plc
- Ref 35: consider adding
|publisher=Aetas Inc.
- Ref 36: add
|publisher=Aspyr
- Ref 37, 38, 39: add
|publisher=CBS Interactive
- Ref 5, 28, 30: add
- Inconsistent linking (no need to avoid duplicate linking here):
- Ref 9, 51, 52, 64: link GameSpot and Red Ventures
- Ref 11, 43, 57: link Ziff Davis
- Ref 23, 53, 54, 55, 67: link IGN and Ziff Davis
- Ref 25: link PlayStation Store
- Ref 44: link Edge
- Ref 45: link Electronic Gaming Monthly and Ziff Davis
- Ref 46: link Game Informer and FuncoLand
- Ref 50: link GamePro and IDG Entertainment
- Ref 56: link Imagine Media
- Ref 2: consider adding the English title using
- I think I've addressed everything here aside from the one comment I made.
Images
[edit]- File:Tomb Raider - Chronicles.png and File:TR Chronicles gameplay.jpg are non-free works with sufficient rationale and commentary to justify their usage
Result
[edit]That's it for now! Mostly minor stuff, with lots of nitpicking—as before, anything written like this is purely a personal suggestion that can safely be ignored without impacting the review. Putting this on hold until my comments have been addressed. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 02:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Rhain: Did my best to address everything. --ProtoDrake (talk) 12:02, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- @ProtoDrake: Looks great, thanks! I've responded above, but I believe you've addressed everything. My only recommendation would be to italicise titles of works in references per MOS:CONFORMTITLE. I'll make some minor edits on my way out, but this is yours: ! Great work. – Rhain ☔ (he/him) 13:29, 29 January 2024 (UTC)