Talk:Three wishes joke

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Wikipedia not being a joke book

I'll concede that a single example might be useful (ideally a historical example, if one exists), but a series of "and here's a variant where [punchline] happens" paragraphs isn't appropriate for an encyclopaedia, particularly when none of the jokes are sourced. --McGeddon 19:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Planescape: Torment reference

The situation mentioned isn't experienced by the main character, it's an irrelevant, optional story told by, and about, another person entirely. - Cunny (talk) 12:21, 23 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Joke?

Isn't this more of a motif, or a tale? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 07:19, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I'd consider it the primary topic of Three wishes. The article should ideally describe the origin of the three-wishes motif/trope/etc. This could draw from Aladdin and Genies in popular culture at least. Much of what's there now could be in a humor section. It could also appropriately frame "The Monkey's Paw" as a horror twist on a literary trope, not on a joke (unless I'm missing something, that wasn't the idea). --BDD (talk) 21:51, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Piotrus and BDD: I completely agree with both of your assessments. Perhaps we start by moving this to Three wishes (motif). BD2412 T 22:44, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BD2412 @BDD It would be good to make sure motif > tale. But I think it is the right idea, because while there are many variants of the tale, here we focus on the "three wishes" part.

Btw, setting aside that this article is very poorly referenced, I recall that when I was working on retelling, I stumbled upon a source that seemed to imply that the entire genie and three tale variant was invented by Disney (or maybe it was Disney that changed unlimited wishes to three...). I am too busy ATM to pursue this further, but it may warrant investigating. (see [1], not a RS) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:35, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And Category:Joke cycles, the sole category here, is likely not good either. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The Disney claim is certainly wrong. See David Smith, Karl-of-the-locket and His Three Wishes (1867), with the motif of a boy granted three wishes who makes a hash of them.

Also, for a good source, John Clute & John Grant, eds., The Encyclopedia of Fantasy (1999), p. 944-45, has an entry on "Three Wishes", tracing it back centuries. BD2412 T 02:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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– Per the discussion in the previous section, the three wishes motif is used much more broadly than just as a joke as reflected in the referenced entry in the Encyclopedia of Fantasy under the title "Three Wishes". BD2412 T 01:09, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. This is the primary meaning of three wishes. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:40, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. matches content --Altenmann >talk 07:36, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]