Talk:Three Rivers South, Oregon

Eyerly Fire

Did a quick search on info for the community and found this http://www.usda.gov/oc/photo/02cs1604.htm. Further search on the Eyerly Fire might come up with something... Katr67 18:58, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Location

I don't know exactly what the truth is, however sunriver/lapine is NOWHERE near Lake Billy Chinook. I am pretty sure two diff. developments are being conflated here. There IS a gated community south of sunriver, but it does not have anywhere near 3000 residents. Also if you follow the homeowners assoc. link at the bottom, it links to a group listing a JEFFERSON county emergency number and showing pics of Lake Billy Chinook, also in Jefferson co. I think that the "three rivers" development is the one in Jefferson co, and there is a diff. one in Deschutes co. anyways not real sure how to edit this one- it needs to be connected to Jeffco and not Desco. I will delete the Sunriver reference right now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.220.110.152 (talk) 08:40, August 23, 2007 (UTC)

I'm changing it back. The article was created by a bot using 2000 census data. This diff shows how the article looked early on. There are lots of things called Three Rivers, but this is describing something specific to the census designation. If we need to list other places called Three Rivers in Oregon, I can make a disambiguation page. I'll take a look at the other edits--I've had a discussion about the POV/OR stuff with someone before... Katr67 14:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

As noted below, there is a naming ambiguity here.

• Three Rivers, Oregon (the census designated community in unincorporated Deschutes county, Oregon) is located south of Sunriver and east of Hwy 97 - searching google maps for "three rivers, or" yields: [1]
• Three Rivers Recreation Area - as discussed in Katr67's page [below] - is a gated community in unincorporated Jefferson County, Oregon. It is located on the south rim of the Metoulius arm of Lake Billy Chinook, west of Metoulius, OR. Google maps find it if you search on "Three Rivers Recreation Area, OR": [2].
• A Google search finds a reference to a second "Three Rivers Recreation Area" in southern Oregon.

I know a bit more about the Three Rivers Recreation Area at Lake Billy Chinook, since my family has a cabin there. As noted below, however, personal experience doesn't qualify as verifiable content, so here's a couple of links that reference the community:

• Another article about life off the grid (Seattle Times)
• Lake Billy Chinook Real Estate page The page includes a note on the history of the Three Rivers Recreation Area.

--Dahoskins 18:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Discussion retrieved from Katr67's talk page

Three Rivers, Oregon

Three Rivers is an interesting example of wikipedia's laws limitations. The problem is, there is basically no published information on the subject, so almost anything added is going to be considered original and thus wrong. In this way, we can't learn about Three Rivers simply because no one has published it.

I've lived in Three Rivers and my information is verifiable -- but "verify" here would mean calling the people and asking them if what i write is accurate.

So what's the solution to this?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rayjackson30 (talk • contribs) 11:33, May 11, 2007

Thanks very much for bringing this up for discussion. First of all, please read about original research. Unfortunately, personal experience does not count as a reliable source on Wikipedia. If there isn't anything published about the situation in a secondary source, I'm afraid it will need to stay out of the article, because as you correctly guessed, calling up people to verify the info doesn't count. I do find the "lawlessness" situation interesting, and I didn't know that Three Rivers was a gated community. Can you at least find a reliable source for that information? I see your revisions have become increasingly less POV, so thanks for working on that. If you want to go ahead and add a few sentences on the legal status of the community that are NPOV, I would be OK with adding a {{fact}} tag to that part and seeing if we can find more information. BTW, I believe "photographic evidence" doesn't work as a reliable source either. I'll take a closer look when I'm not supposed to be working. I hope that helps. Katr67 18:48, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, its clear that the above discussion was about the wrong place called Three Rivers. A particular gated community and the antics therein probably aren't notable, and shouldn't be added to this article in any case because it is in a different county. Case closed. Katr67 14:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

The name of the gated community in Jefferson County is Three Rivers Recreation Area, which makes it sound like a state park, though it is privately owned. If it's notable enough to have an article, or at least to disambiguate from the Deschutes County place, that's what the article should be named. Here's an article about the place being off-grid: http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060904/NEWS0107/609040317&SearchID=73256523953017 Katr67 15:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

450 homes makes it the size of a small town. It isn't a CDP in its own right? Also is that bulletin article enough to merit notability? because the deschutes co location is not very big either.66.220.110.83 07:53, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

I have no idea why it's not a CDP--did you read the Census-designated place article? Not everything is about size. If someone thinks it's notable (read the guidelines), write an article. Katr67 14:17, 17 September 2007 (UTC)