Talk:Third Eye (song)

prod discussion

non notable album song? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.46.16.89 (talk • contribs) 15:01, December 12, 2006 (UTC)

"Album track" as opposed to a single. Non-notable, meaning there's nothing about this song that makes it deserve an article about it. Didn't get any airplay. Didn't have a video. No special significance to Tool fans. This one looked like a cinch for a speedy deletion, but I thought I'd give it a chance with a prod instead. -Freekee 05:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I felt the article deserved saving, as the song is mentioned several times in other articles throughout wikipedia. Also, because the Ænima album is dedicated to Bill Hicks, and this is the track featuring the samples of Hicks, himself. And again, since Third Eye was re-released as a live track in their Salival album, adding a degree of notability and significance. As a Tool fan myself, Third Eye is notable, specifically because of the Hicks exerpts, and the ideas contained in them. I tried to "improve" the article, somewhat. I will also search relavent "Third Eye" mentions in other articles, and link them to this article. I have taken the liberty of removing the delete tag. shabbs

I think it's still borderline, but I'll leave it, for now. For the record, I don't think any of the information here should be lost, but this is the sort of thing that would go nicely in the main album article (I think that article needs a little expansion too). Thanks for working to improve it. I hope you and others continue to do so.

Keep in mind, though, that there are a lot of people who don't think most album tracks aren't deserving of their own articles. See Wikipedia:Notability (songs). It's only a proposal, but it should give you an idea of what some people think. -Freekee 03:26, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

"Didn't get any airplay. Didn't have a video." Means it is insignificant in pop culture, but every song that exists could be useful for other reasons. This song is especially 'different' from the musical standpoint, and there are many who will find this article and add to it in the coming months.

"No special significance to Tool fans." This statement sounds like an opinion. In my opinion it is one of the most significant pieces by this band.

Mikebritt

If it could be useful for other reason, then those other reasons should probably be in the article. And until those people expand it, maybe it should be incorporated into the album article.

If you can explain why you feel it's an important piece, and published media backs you up, then that opinion deserves a place in the article. -Freekee 20:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know whether or not it deserves an article, but I made a change. The majority of this article seems to be somebody's opinion of what the song means. I didn't touch most of it, but there was one part at the end of one of the paragraphs that said that the song and the quote at the beginning reflected the "lachramystic" nature of the song. I removed this part firstly because lachrymology is a farce made up by the band, and also because it cited a line in the song "Crying open my third eye", which is clearly "prying open my third eye", as you can read on the bands official lyrics at http://toolshed.down.net/lyrics. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.53.224.42 (talk • contribs) 00:21, December 15, 2006.

I think this article is really significant to the band. This song seems to be widely overlooked, but the content of the song deserves open interpretation and discussion. It seems to be a full 13 min. tribute to Bill Hicks. There certainly can be a lot of expansion in this article, but having around allows people to add to it for a more rounded view.