Talk:Thiamine deficiency

Thiamine Deficiency as a separate entry

I agree with the 2016 action to separate thiamine deficiency from thiamine. The requirements for thiamine in animal husbandry could benefit from more content. The thiamine article touches on fortification policies of various governments; this entry could benefit from a section on the history of fortification as a means of preventing deficiency. David notMD (talk) 12:58, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

Page name

Since beriberi is caused by thiamine deficiency it seems illogical to have thiamine deficiency as its synonym. Ought the page name be as it was once, Beriberi. Beriberi is by far the most usual name over a million hits on Google and around 340K for thiamine deficiency. The page as it is refers to beriberi constantly. If thiamine deficiency were to be considered a synonym for beriberi it ought to have the two names - wet thiamine deficiency and dry thiamine deficiency.? Dorland's has an entry for beriberi and not for thiamine deficiency.--Iztwoz (talk) 17:50, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

A better name for the page would be thiamine deficiency disorders which would then logically include beriberi and so on.--Iztwoz (talk) 15:50, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Having made a few changes to the wording on relevant pages the page name is fine.

Requested move 27 April 2018

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Thiamine deficiency → Thiamine deficiency disorders – As above page name comments. New page name would easily incorporate the beriberi disorders. As it is the thiamine page states that thiamine deficiency causes linked beriberi which reads as thiamine deficiency. Thiamine deficiency disorders is the term used in the reference in the infobox. Iztwoz (talk) 16:04, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

Oppose since thiamine deficiency is the state, it does not have multiple disorders, the single disorder is Beriberi or thiamine deficiency. It has multiple causes, yes, such as alcohol abuse and others; and, it causes multiple other disorders such as alcoholic brain disease. But it isn't a spectrum of disorders, in my opinion. Waddie96 (talk) 11:28, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

I would like to withdraw requested move having made slight changes to wording in relevant pages.--Iztwoz (talk) 20:26, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose We can use the common term. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:45, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

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Move discussion in progress

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Thiamine deficiency is rare in the United States.

The paragraph in the lead that starts "Thiamine deficiency is rare..." in the lead does not summarise the content of the article.

• "Thiamine deficiency is rare in the United States." -- Why single out the US?
• "It remains relatively common in sub-Saharan Africa." -- Then mention that, but it removes the need for the first sentence.
• "Outbreaks have been seen in refugee camps". ...

I suggest that a section is added to the body of the article stating when and where it was and is common--then the lead paragraph can be rewritten without citations as a summary of cited sources in the new section.

For example many WWII Japanese POWs suffered from beriberi which introduced awareness of the condition to First World populations. Some released Japanese POWs (FEPOWS) suffered longer term consequences of beriberi although their war time thiamine deficiency was temporary. See:

• Robson, D.; et al. (1 February 2009) [14 October 2008]. "Consequences of captivity: health effects of far East imprisonment in World War II". QJM: An International Journal of Medicine. 102 (2): 87–96. doi:10.1093/qjmed/hcn137. and its bibliography.

-- PBS (talk) 19:47, 9 November 2018 (UTC)

Boldface

To answer this question from Doc James, the guidelines for appropriate uses of boldface on Wikipedia are at MOS:BOLD. Ibadibam (talk) 17:06, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes and this is like a "Subsection headings" in an infobox User:Ibadibam Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:28, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

A subsection heading, as referred to by that guideline, is what renders as <h3> tags (or h4, h5, ...) in an article body (you know, ===This===). The infobox data we're talking about is more akin to a definition list (which doesn't format well in an infobox) or an unbulleted list (which is common in infobox fields, and doesn't use boldface). What caught my eye about the boldface text in this infobox when I first visited the page is that the label sort of reads as "Symptoms Wet" which doesn't make much sense. Can't we find a better way? Ibadibam (talk) 02:58, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

Hum I guess that is a good point. Italic is fine User:Ibadibam. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:18, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

Origin of Name

Shouldn't there be a short section or a paragraph at a minimum explaining the origins of the name beriberi? It seems like most articles on Wikipedia provide an explanation of the source of names, so it stands out that there is no mention of why the disease is named beriberi. Maybe nobody knows where it came from, which seems unlikely, but even that would be helpful to know. Bz8x8c (talk) 14:31, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

See History section. David notMD (talk) 17:50, 30 October 2024 (UTC)