Talk:The Inner Light (Star Trek: The Next Generation)
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Picard's tapestry
[edit]I've corrected this a couple of times now. Picard did not get the tapestry that hangs on the back of his chair in this episode. It is not Ressikan. It's not from Kataan. It's Mintakan, and he got it in Who Watches the Watchers?. Look, here's a super-awesome source, with pictures and everything: [1]. Maqsarian 10:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Dead Sources
[edit]Two of the three references at the bottom are no longer accessible on their respective websites. Only the USA Today article remains. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.18.51 (talk) 17:15, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
Inspirations (Il Novellino)
[edit]I've glance through the collection of these short stories reprinted at http://www.elfinspell.com/NovellinoTitle.html, and didn't come across any that struck me as similar to the plot of The Inner Light. It was an enjoyable read, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Userboy87 (talk • contribs) 02:45, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
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Just watched the episode. They said "Nova" instead of "Supernova".
Similar stories
[edit]In a response to a Ref Desk question, this edit came to my attention. It removed a section describing similarities between this episode and some other stories. The edit summary stated "...this section had no bearing on the article". I disagree, I think the other stories (or at least some of them) do have a bearing on this episode. I suggest the deleted section be reinstated. Astronaut (talk) 02:48, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
- These types of sections absolutely need sourcing to assert that other works are comparable in nature. Otherwise, this is original research and inappropriate for WP. --MASEM (t) 03:58, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
- The plot of "Inner Light" also bears strong similarity to a Hindu myth quoted on p. 30 of Heinrich Robert Zimmer's 1972 book "Myths and Symbols in Indian Art and Civilization." The myth involves the sage Narada's quest to understand the nature of maya. I can't find the origin of this myth (Zimmer describes it as "medieval"), nor can I find any sources tying the two stories together, so this definitely qualifies as original research, but I'm including it here in case this is useful to anyone. Alexiskai (talk) 14:51, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- I now noticed the removed section has several {fact} tags. However, in the case of the comparison with "The Dream of Akinosuke" the similarity is self-evident once readers follow the link. In this case I doubt an additional source is required. In the same way, for example, the Parliament of Australia article says it is "largely modelled in the Westminster tradition" without the need for a source because it is self-evident once readers follow the link.
- That said, this link (cited in the "The Dream of Akinosuke" article) mentions the similarity. Astronaut (talk) 05:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
- Getting reliable sources to assert similarities would be good, and that Dream of Akinosuke would seem to be the most likely comparison, but a casual search for connections show nothing. That thing.net would not be a reliable source for this.--MASEM (t) 05:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm surprised seem to dismiss the self-evident similarities between the two stories. Is the presence of a other story not enough to assert the similarity? Astronaut (talk) 06:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
- Self-evident stuff needs to be careful, because I've seen editors (not necessarily with this title) connect stories by weak elements to each other - this is the way of trivia and pop culture references, which can be tricky. But that said, the reference from the Akinosuke article seems to be sufficient to include this. --MASEM (t) 14:49, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
- I'm surprised seem to dismiss the self-evident similarities between the two stories. Is the presence of a other story not enough to assert the similarity? Astronaut (talk) 06:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
- Getting reliable sources to assert similarities would be good, and that Dream of Akinosuke would seem to be the most likely comparison, but a casual search for connections show nothing. That thing.net would not be a reliable source for this.--MASEM (t) 05:39, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
I fail to see how the links offered show any relationship between this episode and the story in question. Sources need to be explicit; we can't interpret them. The source in question appears to be a personal essay that mentions "Star Trek" but doesn't name the episode. Furthermore, how is this a reliable source? Viriditas (talk) 09:18, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
- Removed. There are sources on Google Books that I don't have acesss to that may have more about the flute. If they do, they can be added. Viriditas (talk) 09:11, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
Original air date
[edit]Many sources say May 30, 1992, not June 1. Which is it? Viriditas (talk) 09:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Cultural refrences
[edit]Should I add that the episode and the flute are refrenced in Family Guy episode Big Man on Hippocampus? There is already a link to this page on the page for that Family Guy episode. Does that mean there should be one on this page for it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ultan42 (talk • contribs) 19:10, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
- I would like to see secondary sources highlighting the importance of its appearance. Viriditas (talk) 09:10, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
The Inner Light
[edit]The usage of The Inner Light is under discussion, see Talk:The Inner Light (song) -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 23:59, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
This is why wikipedia can't get people to write for them. I saw this episode yesterday for the first time and looked it up on here and found that the plot summary was out of order and confused in places. I don't write on here much, but I spent over an hour of my time making the article better. It was only a little while later that a typical pompous wikipedian came by and erased everything I did. Not tweaked or polished it, which I wouldn't mind. He just erased it all, wasting my time and putting back some mistakes that I fixed. Fuck wikipedia, I'm done here.
Potential source
[edit]There is an interview with the writer here from Forbes.com where he talks about his comic book sequel to the episode (and also specifically says that it wasn't the same story as the original sequel he had in mind during the filming of the series. Miyagawa (talk) 19:14, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
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Ressikan flute
[edit]The article discusses this flute and it's potential appearance in Star Trek: Nemesis. However, there is no mention of how this connection was made after the destruction of the Enterprise D. Wasn't this flute the item Picard recovered from the wreckage of his cabin in the near final scene of Star Trek Generations? Astronomertom (talk) 00:11, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- While this is not a forum, the thing Picard was looking for at end of Generations was the photo album that he had at the start of the film; the flute never made an appearance that is noted. --MASEM (t) 00:14, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
- Found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQqhonTYZKw, it might be of help Shtanto (talk) 19:31, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Source to use
[edit]http://www.startrek.com/article/morgan-gendel-on-the-inner-lights-24th-anniversary Mostly just small tidbits from Gendel on the genesis and how some elements got included, along with some thematic stuff that could be good to include. —Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 14:59, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
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