Talk:The Holocaust in Russia

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Заебали эти жидовские слёзы! Оказывается, русские партизаны к ним относились никак вообще и если не защищали, то иной раз нет-нет, да убивали. Ох, жиды, допроситесь вы однажды со своей ложью! 195.218.231.67 (talk) 14:50, 27 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is the English Wiki, please use English here. Your statement is google-translated at "Zaebali these Jews' tears! It turns out that Russian partisans to be treated in any way at all, and if not protected, then other times no, no, yes killed. Oh, the Jews, the questioning once you with his lies!" - which makes very little sense. If you have a Reliable Source in English that has information beneficial to the article, please bring it forward. HammerFilmFan (talk) 22:25, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

total numbers of Jews killed in the USSR

The article could be improved with the varying casualties of the Jews killed in/from the USSR (defined as after the annexation of the Baltic states). I will try to get some good source material for it, but anyone else that can bring forward other data please add it. Info on Gypsies and Jehovah's Witnesses would be good info, also - although I think the majority of these were not in the USSR. HammerFilmFan (talk) 22:28, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

untrue/non-factual statement, although there is a source

"The Nazi Genocide of the Jews carried by German Einsatzgruppen, along the local collaborators resulted in almost complete annihilation of the Jewish population over the entire territory temporary occupied by Germany and its allies." - this is not true - areas such as Germany proper, and Poland, had almost the entire Jewish population killed, but others far from it. The Simon Wisenthal Center - perhaps the best source on these figures - shows "only" 17%-50% in many of these territories. For RUSSIA, the see-saw nature of what parts were occupied (the fronts) interfered with the Nazi's plans and thankfully did not allow them to complete their work. I'm going to remove this and replace it with this and other RS's. HammerFilmFan (talk) 10:24, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note - 5. How many Jews were murdered in each country and what percentage of the pre-war Jewish population did they constitute? Answer: (Source: Encyclopedia of the Holocaust) Austria 50,000 -- 27.0% Italy 7,680 -- 17.3% Belgium 28,900 -- 44.0% Latvia 71,500 -- 78.1% Bohemia/Moravia 78,150 -- 66.1% Lithuania 143,000 -- 85.1% Bulgaria 0 -- 0.0% Luxembourg 1,950 -- 55.7% Denmark 60 -- 0.7% Netherlands 100,000 -- 71.4% Estonia 2,000 -- 44.4% Norway 762 -- 44.8% Finland 7 -- 0.3% Poland 3,000,000 -- 90.9% France 77,320 -- 22.1% Romania 287,000 -- 47.1% Germany 141,500 -- 25.0% Slovakia 71,000 -- 79.8% Greece 67,000 -- 86.6% Soviet Union 1,100,000 -- 36.4% Hungary 569,000 -- 69.0% Yugoslavia 63,300 -- 81.2%

This seems to go against common-sense in the figure on Germany, but the population percentage of Germany that was Jewish - less that 2% - was so low, plus many "mixed-race" Jews included in these total figures, managed to escape being murdered due to various legal reasons. Other estimates can be found at http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/killedtable.html ... and many historical works on the Third Reich during WW2 support these figures. HammerFilmFan (talk) 10:33, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Holocaust in the USSR

Should we have a separate article on that topic? Currently this and a number of similar terms redirect here. The primary question concerns the scope of this article: is it about Holocaust in the modern-borders of Russia (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic) as the lead implies, or should this also include content from articles such as The Holocaust in Ukraine or The Holocaust in Lithuania? I think we could use a separate summary article for USSR, while keeping this one about Russia (Russian SFSR). For now, I've added a disambig hat note to clarify the scope. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:02, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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