Talk:The 1989 World Tour/Archive 1
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Baton Rouge Concert Date
This show, at LSU Tiger Stadium, is not part of the Bayou Country Superfest anymore. The festival website does not have Taylor listed anywhere in their line-up, and lists their music festival dates as May 23/24 2015. Can someone please change the note for this date, or at least make this page editable?
http://lineup.bayoucountrysuperfest.com/
- Done Hi, other user fixed it. Thanks for the information.Raulkul (talk) 21:24, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
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An extra show was added at the Nationals Park in Washington, D.C. Tdav0321 (talk) 10:19, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- Where is the source for this? —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 13:39, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
- Source: http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/was/ticketing/taylorswift.jsp?adbid=535900873046511617&adbpl=tw&adbpr=39419180&partnerId=as_was_20141121_36049317
- It's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 00:45, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- Done The second show is already added on the article with source provided by TS's official site.Raulkul (talk) 20:11, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
- It's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — {{U|Technical 13}} (e • t • c) 00:45, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
- Source: http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/was/ticketing/taylorswift.jsp?adbid=535900873046511617&adbpl=tw&adbpr=39419180&partnerId=as_was_20141121_36049317
Sydney Location
It's at ANZ Stadium, not at Allianz Stadium — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.8.161 (talk) 08:20, 7 December 2014 (UTC)
- Done Already fixed by other user.Raulkul (talk) 20:14, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Concert dates
Please, keep in mind that the concerts at the BBC Radio 1 and Rock In Rio ARE NOT part of the tour, they are separated festivals — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sneryam (talk • contribs) 00:12, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
- @Sneryam: No, as cited at the reliable sources, it's part of the tour. There are many other cases like this, that happened not just with Taylor, but with other singers that some shows are part of festivals. Be welcome to clik on the souces and read them.Raulkul (talk) 20:17, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Sneryam: You've been warning on your talk page. Please stop with this edit war and disruptive edits about the Rock in Rio Show.Raulkul (talk) 22:06, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- They were not listed as part of the tour in Taylor's site, and tickets were not sold as a tour tickets, and the BBC Radio 1 was just a 'festival concert' with Taylor performing a couple of songs, that not the 1989 tour at all. And about the Rock In Rio, it wasn't a tour stop, she brought the tour there, and thats pretty normal, it doesnt make it a tour date — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sneryam (talk • contribs) 02:56, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Sneryam: About the BBC Radio 1 show you are right, that was a pocket show. But about the Rock in Rio you are totally wrong. You said there's nothing on TS's site, what do you think about it? http://www.taylorswift.com/events/303563 and on the Billboard's source they clearly state "[...]stage as a huge curtain emblazoned with a boombox and the words "1989 World Tour"" and "[...]which doubled as the official stateside kickoff of her 1989 World Tour". Do you understand now? thank you!Raulkul (talk) 16:09, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- They were not listed as part of the tour in Taylor's site, and tickets were not sold as a tour tickets, and the BBC Radio 1 was just a 'festival concert' with Taylor performing a couple of songs, that not the 1989 tour at all. And about the Rock In Rio, it wasn't a tour stop, she brought the tour there, and thats pretty normal, it doesnt make it a tour date — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sneryam (talk • contribs) 02:56, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Sneryam: You've been warning on your talk page. Please stop with this edit war and disruptive edits about the Rock in Rio Show.Raulkul (talk) 22:06, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
- The link you posted here just prove my point, its listed as ROCK IN RIO concert Tickets were sold as RIR concert When it was listed on www.taylorswift.com/events it wasnt '1989 tour' like the Hyde Park concert, it was 'Rock In Rio', thats what i was saying But i agree that a edit war is useless But again, the RIR concert wont even be counted as a 1989 tour concert when its all said and done, they will count 62 concerts in the USA to see how much she did per concert — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sneryam (talk • contribs) 19:00, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Sneryam: On this link http://www.taylorswift.com/events used to have the RIR show listed, so it does part of the tour, even it's a festival. I'm gonna give you one example. Many shows of the ArtRave: The Artpop Ball was part of festivals, like "Festival d'été de Québec", "Ottawa Bluesfest", "AIA Real Life: NOW Festival"... Of course theses shows there weren't boxscore because there were part of festivals, but even that, they made part of the tour. Taylor brought the whole structure of the concent to RIR, and the same happened to Gaga and other artists. So yes, RIR should remain.Raulkul (talk) 19:39, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it was listed but not as 1989 tour, like the BBC Radio.. they were listed as separated events — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sneryam (talk • contribs) 01:46, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
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The attending at the tokyo dome is 110,000 out of 110,000
122.169.15.236 (talk) 14:13, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kharkiv07Talk 18:44, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
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The setlist is incorrect. For the third song, she does not perform "Anaconda". She performs "Blank Space".
Bradsells (talk) 20:55, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
Not done You need to provide a reliable source. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:57, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
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3.Blank Space 4.I Knew You Were Trouble 171.6.91.164 (talk) 13:41, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- Not done: as you have not requested a specific change.
If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".
Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 14:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
The user named Shizzle122 try to insult Taylor Swift by edit wrong information. Please undo all editings by him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geo-0609 (talk • contribs) 16:28, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
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Request for May 15, 2015 to be added to the tour schedule in North America for Las Vegas, NV. Taylor performed her 1989 Tour Set at Rock in Rio USA for a crowd of approximately 50,000 people.184.101.49.162 (talk) 17:03, 18 May 2015 (UTC) 184.101.49.162 (talk) 17:03, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- As you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 18:26, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- Done I've already added the show with a reliable source provided by Billboard!Raulkul (talk) 20:05, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
Photos
I have some really good photos I took last night here in Charlotte that I think could add to the encyclopedic quality of this article. Should I post some or would that somehow be some sort of copyright problem? Eric Cable | Talk 13:02, 9 June 2015 (UTC)
- @EricCable: It would be great, but from what I saw, all articles related to Swift's tours, there aren't photos of her performing.Raulkul (talk) 21:36, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
There's no way these revenue numbers are right.
Charlotte... $1,627,798 divided 15,024 seats is $108.34 per ticket. The cheap seats were more than that. Eric Cable | Talk 01:25, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
Boxscores
The numbers "104,000" and "65,000" for Tokyo Dome and Hyde Park are not confirmed by any boxscore
Plus, Pollstar received the boxscores for the Summer Time as a festival (arond 45k for each day) so it wont be counted as a Taylor Swift concert, and it makes no sence to add the number of the attendence without the money earned in it (The only thing it changes is that it makes the average price of the tickets look lower)
Why not add a new topic on the main page for festival dates only? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sneryam (talk • contribs) 23:19, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
- If there isn't the boxscore for some concerts or (of course) festivals, just leave it blank. GagaNutella (talk) 00:48, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Totally agree, but someone keeps editing and using those numbers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sneryam (talk • contribs) 02:51, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Done And we will keep removing those disruptive edits. GagaNutella (talk) 02:54, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
- Totally agree, but someone keeps editing and using those numbers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sneryam (talk • contribs) 02:51, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Commercial Reception
The latest revision makes no sense. "Swift's twenty-five shows from the North American run (May 20–June 6, 2015) geneated a total of US$89.8 million from 149,708 ticket sales." My math isn't great but that kinda seems wrong. So I'm just gonna revert it till someone wants to add something that makes sense along with references. --EnderAtreides117 (talk) 08:00, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Australia, Singapore and China
Could someone verify the attendance and revenue figures recently added to the last few shows?--EnderAtreides117 (talk) 08:13, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
- @EnderAtreides117: The attendance and revenue figures come from Billboard Boxscore, and it's not updated yet as far as releasing Swift boxscore. Just wait patiently. It usually takes international venues a while for them to release their numbers. I don't know the reason, but don't expect them to release the number so soon. Musicpoplover12 (talk) 20:46, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 14 December 2015
Someone please get this page semi-protected again. This page has been a total mess after the tour ended, and I'm growing tired of people putting false information. Musicpoplover12 (talk) 19:24, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
It was the highest grossing tour in the world during 2015
But only the third-highest grossing 1989 tour of all time. Pink Floyd and Michael Jackson beat her: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_concert_tours#1980s. =) 71.71.57.15 (talk) 22:11, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
I think we should write more information for "The 1989 World Tour"
this page should have more information such as costume, Concert synopsis, Critical reception
Date concern
If the tour took place in 2015, then why does the article read that it was in 1989? Meltingwood meow 02:07, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
Price of The 1989 World Tour
@Kellymoat: All prices that are mentioned in "Ticket sales" section are average price from secondary market according to Forbes. That not the price from the tour's official organizer. We should put the term "secondary market" in front of information about these price in order to avoid misunderstanding from readers? — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 12:55, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not reading it that way. The Forbes article doesn't say that the entire article is about the secondary market prices. It said that tickets were selling out, but some remained on the secondary market. Kellymoat (talk) 13:16, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Kellymoat:The entire article doesn't say but the main purpose of this article is focusing on Taylor Swift's average price on secondary market and ticket reseller site. You think $380 is Swift's average original price in US, don't you? That is price on TiqIQ. Can you double check some Forbes article about Taylor Swift's price in [1], [2], [3]? You'll see the average price always change. — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 07:29, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- I have seen $1000 ticket prices directly from venues (and/or LiveNation) for less popular shows. Why would I not expect a $380 average ticket price for something as in-demand as a Taylor Swift. Kellymoat (talk) 10:32, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Kellymoat: I repeat again, that price is not average original price for Swift shows in US. That price is from TiqIQ - a secondary ticket market. Can you see any US concert of 1989 Tour that list on Billboard Boxsocre had price over US$380?? — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 11:56, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Admittedly, I haven't gone to your references yet. But, I can totally see average prices being that high. For example, Enrique and Pitbull, at Madison Square Garden, ticket prices direct from the venue or LiveNation are $79-815. Coldplay in Miami range from $64 to $824. Why would we not expect Taylor Swift to average at $380? Kellymoat (talk) 12:25, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Just check the Billboard Boxscore data, or you can divide the tour's total gross by the tour's total tickets and see the original average price.
US$250,733,097 / 2,278,647 = US$110.0359542 per ticket
. Again, the average price at US$380 is from TiqIQ - a secondary ticket market. Do you still think it is the tour's original price.—Phamthuathienvan (talk) 13:03, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Just check the Billboard Boxscore data, or you can divide the tour's total gross by the tour's total tickets and see the original average price.
- I paid $750 each directly to TicketMaster... and that wasn't even on the floor! If you wanted to be on the floor (in Charlotte, NC) it was going to be $1500 each. My wife is still pissed I spent that kind of money on T-Swift tickets. Eric Cable ! Talk 13:23, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- @EricCable: Taylor Swift tickets can not be so expensive like this. See information on Raleigh's PNC Arena official website, ticket range from $39.50, $97.00, and $139.50. I think you bought ticket from a reseller on Ticketmaster. Your ticket is called "Verified Resale Ticket". — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 13:40, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- I paid $750 each directly to TicketMaster... and that wasn't even on the floor! If you wanted to be on the floor (in Charlotte, NC) it was going to be $1500 each. My wife is still pissed I spent that kind of money on T-Swift tickets. Eric Cable ! Talk 13:23, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- How can you say that prices can't be that high. I just showed you prices over $800 for current shows. Shows that are nowhere near as in-demand as Taylor Swift, particularly in the 1989-era. Kellymoat (talk) 13:59, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Kellymoat: See the seating map for the Charlotte show that Eric Cable attended, Taylor Swift ticket just range from 39.50 to 129.50 US dollar. I actually know Taylor is so popular in the 1989-era but the thing I try to let you know that the US$380 IS NOT the original average price of her show. That price is from TiqIQ - an secondary ticket market or ticket resale site according to Forbes. And I want to put the term "secondary market" to help readers avoid misunderstanding. Have you checked the Billboard Boxscore chart that I gave you the link??
- I am the one who contributed this "Ticket sales" section. I used to think the US$380 price as well as all another price I put here were the Taylor Swift's original price because I did not care about the word "secondary market" that the Forbes author always mentioned in every his report about Swift price.
- About Coldplay ticket price in Miami. I think ticket for the show has been sold out, and some ticket holders resale them in high price. The South Florida site reported that ticket for Coldplay's Miami show in August "cost $29.50-$189.50". Please check Ticketmaster website - the official agency which sell ticket for this show. Can you see the word "Verified Resale Ticket"?. Similar to Enrique and Pitbull show at Madison Square Garden, where original price just range from $49.95 to $199.95.
- But you are forgetting those "VIP packages" which are considered ticket sales, and are not from resellers. Kellymoat (talk) 14:59, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- What do you mean with VIP Package? I know VIP Packages cost the highest price among all category but I am talking about standard price. Standard ticket price often sell out quickly, and some touts resale them with unthinkable price on secondary market.—Phamthuathienvan (talk) 15:10, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- No. I did not open the box score. That is the one that doesn't want to open for me.Kellymoat (talk) 17:42, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Anyway, I'll edit the Ticket sales section like below so no reader will not misunderstand about the price.—Phamthuathienvan (talk) 12:22, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Ticket sales
Pre-sales for European shows started on November 4, public on-sale for this leg started on November 7, tickets for London was sold later on November 10. First round of pre-sales on select North American shows start on November 7 and general sales for fans in North America started from November 14, 2014; Australia started from December 12, 2014; Japan started from December 13, 2014; Singapore and Shanghai started from June 30, 2015. Swift was the sixth most-searched artist on Ticketmaster in 2014.[1]
Sellout status occurred in many cities when general sales for the tour started. Swift announced 9 extra dates as well as the new show in Houston for North American leg. Los Angeles had the most extra dates with 3 shows at Staples Center, cities which had one extra date were East Rutherford, Chicago, Washington, D.C., Philadelphia, St. Paul, Santa Clara. In St. Louis, Swift was originally performing on October 13 and 14, 2015, but after to adding Houston to the schedule, St. Louis shows downsize from two to one and she would play in this city only on September 28, 2015 and tickets go on sale at 10 am on January 30, 2015.[2] However, tickets for St. Louis show was sold out within minutes, this resulted in a second date being added there on September 29 at the same venue.[3] Swift also added more dates to European leg due to vast popularity, one for Cologne and one for Dublin.[4] In Dublin, tickets for both concert sold out within 55 minutes although the second show was just added after 6 minutes when the first show was sold out.[5]
In Australia, over 30,000 tickets for the first show (December 11, 2015) in Melbourne was sold out less than an hour.[6] Soon after, Swift announced 2 extra dates for this leg, one for Melbourne and one for Adelaide.[7] Due to popular demand, in July 2015, Swift added the third show for Melbourne after 2 first shows were sold out and became the first female artist to play 3 shows at AAMI Park.[8]
In January 2015, Forbes reported that The 1989 World Tour was one of the most expensive concert tours of 2015 on secondary market, just behind Fleetwood Mac's On with the Show and Maroon 5's V Tour.[9] In the US, the average ticket price was $380 according to TiqIQ, and the cheapest date was the show at the Fargodome on October 12, where the average ticket price was $182.95 with a get-in of $79.[10] The show on June 29, 2015 in Dublin was the most expensive European date, where the average ticket price was $285, with a get-in price of $198.[11] The Sydney show has the cheapest get-in price for Taylor Swift tickets in Australia at $130 Australian ($100 USD). The most expensive show is the final concert in Melbourne – Saturday, December 12, 2015 – with a get-in price of $249 Australian ($193 USD). In total, The Red Tour tickets averaged $176 across all tour stops, whereas the 1989 World Tour averaged at about $392 per concert, a 123% increase. Tickets for the 1989 World Tour were the most expensive ever for Taylor Swift.[10]
— Phamthuathienvan (talk) 07:36, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- I paid $750 each directly to TicketMaster... and that wasn't even on the floor! If you wanted to be on the floor (in Charlotte, NC) it was going to be $1500 each. My wife is still pissed I spent that kind of money on T-Swift tickets. Eric Cable ! Talk 13:23, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- @EricCable: Taylor Swift tickets can not be so expensive like this. See information on Raleigh's PNC Arena official website, ticket range from $39.50, $97.00, and $139.50. I think you bought ticket from a reseller on Ticketmaster. Your ticket is called "Verified Resale Ticket". — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 13:40, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Nope. Directly from Ticket master in the first minutes they were on sale. Confirmed with people sitting around me they had all paid about the same amount. Eric Cable ! Talk 13:55, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- @EricCable: Taylor Swift tickets can not be so expensive like this. See information on Raleigh's PNC Arena official website, ticket range from $39.50, $97.00, and $139.50. I think you bought ticket from a reseller on Ticketmaster. Your ticket is called "Verified Resale Ticket". — Phamthuathienvan (talk) 13:40, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Luke Bryan Tops One Direction on Ticketmaster's Most-Searched List". Billboard. January 5th, 2015.
- ^ "Taylor Swift's St. Louis concerts downsize from two nights to one". January 11th 2015. Archived from the original on 2016-01-23.
- ^ "Taylor Swift Adds Second St. Louis Show!".
- ^ "TAYLOR ANNOUNCES ADDITIONAL DATE ON THE EUROPEAN LEG OF THE 1989 WORLD TOUR". taylorswift.com.
- ^ "Taylor Swift sold out after adding extra Dublin date".
- ^ "TAYLOR SWIFT SELLS OUT AAMI PARK MELBOURNE".
- ^ "Taylor Swift adds more shows to 2015 Australian tour".
- ^ "Taylor Swift To Make History At AAMI Park".
- ^ "Fleetwood Mac, Maroon 5 & Taylor Swift Top Forbes List of Most Expensive Secondary Market Tour Tickets 2015".
- ^ a b Lawrence, Jesse (29 July 2015). "Tickets For 1989 Tour Are Most Expensive Ever For Taylor Swift". Forbes. Retrieved 2016-02-12.
- ^ "High Demand For Taylor Swift Tickets Continues As 1989 World Tour Heads Overseas". Forbes. June 10th 2015.