Talk:Terry Fox/Archive 1
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Coinage
- This is the first time a circulation coin features a Canadian (check out [1] for more information on the coin) --Pbfurlong 18:18, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
Vietnam Protests?
I removed the statement about Terry participating in Vietnam War protests and campus sit-ins based on the fact that Terry was 15 years old, in grade 10 at Mary Hill Junior Secondary when Nixon announced that the US would be withdrawing from Vietnam. It isn't likely and unless it can be corroborated, should not be included. Lainyg 20:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
Memorials
I would like to propose changing the list of things named after Terry to prose. Simply state that "Many school across Canada are named after him" or "Many streets and parks are named after him" and only really mentioning things that have articles for them. I would also suggest we try and get some sources for these. The section is getting a bit big in my opinion and would detract from the articles quality. Please discuss. :) vıdıoman 07:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
Marathon
I think the section requiring a source for the claim that no one had ever tried to run a marathon a day before Terry is a bit silly and should be removed. It's impossible to prove anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.250.56.26 (talk) 16:50, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
Small nitpick in Biography statement
Terry was [originally] born in Winnipeg....
Can we delete 'originally' as it adds nothing to the clarity.
Oolitic 98 (talk) 17:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
- You don't have to ask. Just do it then summarize what you did in the summary box before hitting save page. vıdıoman 17:23, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
Streets and Highways
There is a link missing to Vancouver, British Columbia in the streets and highways section. Could someone add it please.--Temptaker (talk) 22:14, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
- Done. All instances of Vancouver were unlinked for some reason. vıdıoman 12:56, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Personal essay, not encyclopedia article
Was this somebody's junior high school term paper? It's not bad as such, but is this the place? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.62.47 (talk) 21:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- I concur. This is written like it's cheerleading for him. Tiger Khan (talk) 21:16, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
I'm in agreement with the above posts. It's nice and it's sweet, but it's not what one would expect for an encyclopedia entry. Gandydancer (talk) 22:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Data Inconsistency
- He ran an average of 42.1 km (26.2 miles) a day, the distance of a typical marathon.
- […]
- he was forced to abandon the course on 1 September, 1980 just northeast of Thunder Bay, Ontario after 143 days. He had run 5,373 km (3,339 miles)
5373km / 143day = 37.6kpd
3339mi / 143day = 23.3mpd
—Gamahucheur 10:57, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
- The former was the plan; the latter the reality. -- GWO
While he may have averaged 23.3 mi/day, the vast majority of the days were in fact 26.2 miles. According to several books, Terry was a meticulous record keeper and was determined to run a marathon each day.
There were a few days that he didn't do this. I remember reading that he took the first of a few days off when entering Montreal. He also took an extra day off before either Ottawa or Toronto (can't remember which) as the Canadian Cancer Society needed additional time to plan some events. And his first day was only 11 miles.
None of this takes away from an amazing achievement by a remarkable human being. —...jeff
Agreed, it doesn't take away from his incredible accomplishment...somedays he would run more than 42.1 km /day —Preceding unsigned comment added by JLee1114 (talk • contribs) 20:17, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Diving, Swimming?
These need to be taken out. Terry never won numerous medals for diving and swimming. He didnt do either of these sports.JLee1114 (talk) 20:21, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Cancer treatment activist??
Terry's dream was to run across Canada to raise money for cancer research. He wasn't a treatment activist, he believed way to find a cure was through funding research. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.116.179.148 (talk) 16:15, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Doug Alward
Someone should write a paragraph about Terry's friend Doug Alward's role in the Marathon of Hope.--User:Brenont (talk) 05:22, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
vancouver 2010 honour terry fox
Yesterday, I show a link saying an award at the next olympic games in vancouver will be givin in honour of terry fox for the most courageous athlete at the games and it was delete, why? Maybe the place or the way i explain it was wrong... but why delete it and not just modified it? I gave not one link but two link, so I didnt come here and change stuff just for fun... I think wikipedia as been lately just a gossip place.... when something bad or controversy you can be sure it will be right away on wikipedia and here to stay... but when it's something good.... it never stay, got delete like it have no values at all.. I even show two offical link about it to make sure it will stay because everytime i change something accurate and with value it delete right away. Strangely, if a star have a drug problem it will stick right away so the world can know. Congratulation wikipedia.... the wanna be source !
http://www.vancouver2010.com/olympic-news/n/news/vancouver-2010-terry-fox-award-to-honour-olympian-who-touches-world--with-courage--humility-and-extraordinary-athletic-abilities-at-2010-winter-games-_191146ui.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.5.113.50 (talk) 15:40, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right. It was a very valuable addition, and an IP deleted it because it wasn't the greatest English prose. It would have been better just to improve what you wrote, and this has now been done. Thanks for your contribution, and I hope you aren't discouraged by this experience. --Slp1 (talk) 15:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Proposed merge
I propose that the Terry Fox and Marathon of Hope articles be merged into one article, and that this article be Terry Fox (which is the more general subject). I believe this should be done because the two articles essentially cover the same material. It's really impossible to seperate the man (Terry Fox) from his main achievement (the Marathon of Hope). If you look at the Terry Fox article, the actual information about the man Terry Fox is limited to the Biography section. The Legacy, Portrayals, and Honours sections of the Terry Fox article are, without a doubt, all about honours bestowed upon him because of the Marathon of Hope, and to have them seperate from the bulk of the information about the Marathon of Hope doesn't really make sense. Any comments? I would love to have some feedback before even attempting this merge. Thanks! --Gpollock 16:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. The Marathon of Hope was a noteworthy event and is deserving of its own Wikipedia article. It could be expanded to cover the run itself in more detail. And the Terry Fox article in no way captures the *huge* outpouring of attention that Fox received after his run. --Angrybeaver.bc 06:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
- Also disagree. Both articles need to be expanded, not merged. Mike7054 12:34, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
- I can see how the Marathon of Hope can and should be expanded, but also agree that it was fundamentally an effort of Terry Fox alone and that it could fit within the biography itself. It is certainly possible that, if the two articles were combined, they might more easily get the attention of other editors and even achieve good-article or even feature-article status more easily. Certainly, if the total amount of information found on the subject proves to be too much for one article, then it could be broken up again. But I do think that the amount of information on both subjects has a greater potential to get more attention from editors, and, ultimately, readers, if the two are combined, at least at this point. As stated, they could be separated again later if circumstances warrant it. Badbilltucker 13:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. I think both are worthy of a separate article. Nephron T|C 18:34, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
I can understand your point-of-view but I also oppose this merger. The article on Terry Fox should be a biography that includes his 1980 Marathon of Hope run and honours he received but not limited to it. The Marathon of Hope article can include more detailed information on where it went, logistics, who was involved, media coverage, moneys raised, receptions, legacy, etc. that would not belong in a bio while not discussing in any great deal the life of Terry before the Run. DoubleBlue (Talk) 22:43, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. The two topics are related, but each merit their own, separate articles, for all the reasons given. Skeezix1000 12:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose
If the article is to be merged, merge it with Terry Fox Run, but not with Terry Fox.
I was 11 in 1980, and Terry's run was the biggest story that year. When school started in September, we were all talking about Terry Fox. Wombatman 00:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. Two separate, but related topics. Terry Fox- Canadian icon. Marathon of Hope- Terry's most recognized achievement, a big boost to cancer research, a source of hope for people with cancer and a story worth telling over and over again. Clerks 13:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. Terry Fox and the Marathan of Hope are two different topics. The Marathon of Hope will always be connected to Terry but he wanted it to be connected with the campaign to fight cancer--not with him. Such was his modesty and shrewdness--he refused doing ads for corporations during the Marathon of Hope--it was as all about cancer research and nothing more. His integrity here was what endears him to Canadians to this day. Leoboudv 22:59, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Oppose. For all the reasons already stated Lainyg 20:50, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose. I know I'm responding well after the fact from the dates shown above, but my two cents is that these do require separate articles. My reasoning on this is that, although Terry Fox is deceased, the Marathon of Hope led to the Terry Fox Run, which continues every year without his personal involvement. If the Marathon of Hope had not caused the creation of an annual event separate from the person, then it might be more logical to combine the two. Resinguy (talk) 21:42, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
Osteosarcoma, car crash?
I think the line stating that Fox's osteosarcoma may have been caused by his car accident should be removed. There is no evidence of trauma as an etiologic cause of osteosarcoma listed in major textbooks such as Robbin's Pathology or Campbell's Operative Orthopedics. Furthermore, it is stated as doubtful in the recent review article on etiology of osteosarcoma (Clinical Orthopaedics & Related Research. (397):40-52, 2002 Apr.) and is suggested to be anecdotally connected but not pathologically. I think keeping the line in is detrimental as it could cause unnecessary worrying among people with mild bone injuries. 128.189.249.47 16:04, 11 October 2007 (UTC)D
- That is correct, and a good point. It is also notable, though, that Terry Fox believed there was a link between the accident and his later development of osteosarcoma. Whether or not what he believed is true, it is a fact that he held this belief. I've tweaked the article to include both pieces of information. Cheers, Kla’quot (talk | contribs) 05:40, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
- I like your change. I think it's fair and accurate. 154.20.203.140 22:52, 4 November 2007 (UTC) D (same D, different computer)
Note that I removed an IP comment here [2] mistakenly. The article did briefly contain the vandalism they referred to. However it got fixed very quickly so I still see no need to have the actual vandal text here. Franamax (talk) 18:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Image request
As some may have noted, I've been massively overhauling and re-writing this article, integrating some of the long ignored suggestions on this talk page, and hope to bring it to FA status in time for the 30th Terry Fox Run in September. One image that I think would add a good deal of value, both to this article and Marathon of Hope, would be a map of Canada with Fox's path. I may take a stab at creating this myself, but given my skills at such things are very poor, if anyone else is interested in creating this, it would be most appreciated! Resolute 01:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
- I can do it. Do you have a map or description of the route he took? vıdıoman 08:57, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
- Awesome! The Terry Fox Foundation has a map of his path: [3], which of course is under their copyright. Thanks for this. Resolute 14:50, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
- It doesn't have a description though. They just added a squiggly line to the map. If I put that onto a commons map it might be considered copyright infringement. If there is some sort of record of which roads he took it would be better, and more accurate. I could add markers for each of the stops in communities to the map as well. vıdıoman 12:40, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- I don't think a line on a map is copyrightable - there's really no artistic creativity there and I can find several maps showing the same lines - but rather the map itself is what I would worry about. His path is also described in the link above. CBC Archives also have a general path with key points. Resolute 16:16, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
- You could use the list of cities there and do a connect the dots map that wouldn't copy theirs. I might give it a shot if you don't. Kmusser (talk) 20:33, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
- Sure. I may yet tackle a map myself, but if you can come up with something first, that would be great! thanks, Resolute 21:02, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Text of letter
I have reverted to Resolute's version in which Fox's letter is presented in a more condensed form. My reasonings are:
- The letter is copyrighted text [4]; we cannot include copyrighted material without permission, though short quotes are acceptable.
- Even the Terry Fox foundation version of letter has apparently been edited and shortened. Compare this with this longer version. In other words, letting Fox "speak for himself" is a complicated business, since the letter included wasn't the full version either.
- As I mentioned at the FAC, I do not think the inclusion of the longer letter text is good encyclopedic writing.
However, a link to the full letter is appropriate. If people want to read the whole thing, they can click and read it there. I'll add one.--Slp1 (talk) 14:09, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
Route
Could we get more information on the route he took? How far into southern Ontario did he go? Did he always run alongside highways? How did he get from Newfoundland to Nova Scotia? I know there's a map, but considering the vast distances involved, it's not that helpful. Brutannica (talk) 19:28, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Terry Fox Award
Would it make sense to include the 2010 winners of this: Rochette and Majdic? Is this award going to be presented at the 2014 Winter Olympics or the 2012 Summer Olympics? Chris (talk) 00:51, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- The winners of the award are irrelevant to Fox's biography. It'd be like listing the Cy Young Award winners on Cy Young's article. Not sure on the second question - I think the COC intends to award it going forward, but I don't know if it will be every Olympics, every Winter Olympics or just this once. Resolute 00:57, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just a thought. Chris (talk) 22:44, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
Order of Canada
Two editors have now insisted on keeping inaccuracies in the lead; in particular, the claim that the Order of Canada is "the nation's highest civilian award." In fact, the Order of Canada is an order, the appointment into which is an honour, not an award. Further, there exists above the Order of Canada in the national order of precedence for honours, decorations, and medals two honours available to civilians: appointment into the Order of Merit (the personal gift of the monarch, i.e. not dependant on cabinet's advice in any way) and the award of the Cross of Valour (a decoration). If someone has a more clear way to explain that than my wording, please offer it. But the lead should not be presenting as fact what is patently untrue. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 17:15, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- The Order of Merit is neither Canadian nor official on the nation's order of precedence, so it is irrelevant. I'll concede the Cross of Valour - I had thought it was a military award. But your wording was, frankly, terrible and confusing. I've simply removed the statement for now, pending a better statement, or if one is needed at all. Resolute 17:25, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- Perhaps you should do a little more research before barking at people for edit warring and demanding they talk all while you ignore the talk they started and revert the link from the article to it. The Order of Merit is not a foreign order and, though not in the official precedence list (not all Canadian honours and medals are), it has been deemed to be above the Order of Canada. Good for you if you think my wording was "terrible and confusing", but reverting to the incorrect claim was the opposite of anything better. Removing any mention of precedence at least gets rid of the earlier mistake. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 17:35, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've added a citation for it. If the Cross of Valour has a higher rank than the Order of Canada, it seems to have escaped the notice of most reliable sources.--Slp1 (talk) 17:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- The cite you added does claim that the order is "the nation's highest civilian honor [sic]," but it's an American newspaper, which is hardly an authority on Canadian honours. More reliable sources, such as the Department of National Defence, place the Cross of Valour above the Order of Canada, as does the Chancellery of Honours. Also, as I noted above, though the Order of Merit is not in the official order of precedence, it is considered by Canada's two top experts on honours to be above the Order of Canada. So, you were right to refrain from re-adding the same inaccurate claim to this article.
- Thanks to you both for addressing this. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 17:53, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
- I've added a citation for it. If the Cross of Valour has a higher rank than the Order of Canada, it seems to have escaped the notice of most reliable sources.--Slp1 (talk) 17:33, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Time Travel
"His right leg was amputated in 1477 after he was diagnosed with osteosarcoma..." So he traveled back in time to get his leg cut off? That's cool in my book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.198.247.149 (talk) 17:34, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
- Garden variety vandalism. It's already been reverted. Resolute 19:31, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
terry fox
Steve Nash Connection:
I can't edit the main page, but someone should make mention that Steve Nash is making a documentary about Terry. Nash's goal is to tell this story to Americans. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Suivoh (talk • contribs) 13:10, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
It's called Into the Wind and you can see a preview here: http://30for30.espn.com/film/into-the-wind.html
It should also be added on the main page that the library in Port Coquitlam http://www.fvrl.bc.ca/read/library_terryfox.htm is named after him and holds a collection of all his memorabilia (his runners, running clothes, his artificial leg etc.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.68.155.194 (talk) 02:55, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Wrong height given for Terry Fox
I think you will find that Terry was not "only five feet tall" as stated in the article.... I would imagine he stood about as tall as me...I am about 5'10" Can this be corrected ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.6.22.95 (talk) 19:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- The reference is to when he was in grade 8. :) Rob Banzai (talk) 20:06, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Relgious affiliation?
I don't believe Terry was Roman Catholic as stated, but rather belonged to the United Church of Canada. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.232.182.83 (talk • contribs)
- You have any source on that? UnDeRsCoRe 23:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
I believe his family belonged to the United Church of Canada. His funeral notice appearing in the Ottawa Citizen, Thursday July 2, 1981, notes on page 11 that his funeral was held at Trinity United Church in Port Coquitlam, British Columbia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.176.151.29 (talk) 22:58, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
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Music
3339
On Friday, May 11, 2012 the Redshift Music Society presented the world premiere of 3339 at the Vancouver East Cultural Centre (Cultch). Vancouver Composer/Double Bassist, Mark Haney's 3339 recalls the summer of 1980: A 5 year old boy in Espanola, Ontario follows the epic journey of a young man from British Columbia who would run 3339 miles in 143 days; across 3 time zones, 6 provinces and 10 stages of the Hero's Journey. 3339 incorporates resonant melodies, pulsing ostinati, numerically-derived structures and materials, looping figures and motifs, enveloping soundscapes, field recordings and a narrator (Neworld Theatre's Adrienne Wong) to re-tell the most mythic of all Canadian tales: that of Terry Fox and his Marathon of Hope. The performance debuted The MARS Quartet featuring Mark McGregor (flute), Marcus Takizawa (viola), Mark Haney (double bass) and Martin Fisk (percussion). source: http://www.redshiftmusic.org/index.html Mplindy (talk) 16:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Not done - sorry .. Wiki is not the place to advertise this event.Moxy (talk) 19:26, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
Edit Request: Wrong link under 'Legacy'
Under the heading 'Legacy', the first bullet under the sub heading 'Honours', there is a mention of and link to the Terry Fox Courage Highway in THunder Bay Ontario, but the link directs to an article on Terry Fox Drive in Ottawa - almos 1000 miles away from the Courage Highway. I don't believe there is an article on the Terry Fox Courage Highway. There is an article on the Thunder Bay Expressway, which is partially composed of the Courage highway. Anyhow, the erroneous link to Terry Fox Drive should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deadline1900 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
- Fixed. Thank you for pointing that out. --NeilN talk to me 16:21, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Edit request on 2 October 2012
Vahbir (talk) 23:25, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, what would you like changed? Welcome to Wikipedia. The Interior (Talk) 23:29, 2 October 2012 (UTC)
Vahbir (talk) 02:25, 3 October 2012 (UTC) terry fox was olympic player
- To my knowledge, T.Fox did not participate in the Olympics. He would have been a formidable Paralympian though. The Interior (Talk) 02:32, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
Removed map of marathon route
Hi all, I've removed the map of Fox's route across Canada. Several sources online indicate that he stopped in Sheet Harbour, Dartmouth and Halifax, NS, which the map doesn't reflect. I would fix it myself but this error casts some doubt on the accuracy of the rest of the route. I think a map is necessary, but in the meantime this one should probably not be used. When I have time I'll try to find a more accurate "timeline". Regards, Citobun (talk) 05:45, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- I built the map based on the one posted on the official Terry Fox Foundation website. (the original, larger version is offline, but a thumbnail can be seen here). In that map, the drawn path clearly does not connect to Halifax/Dartmouth. Though, oddly, the journal does say he stopped there. It wouldn't be hard to slightly alter the path to match this, but it'll have to wait for later today. Resolute 15:10, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- That should work...thank you! Citobun (talk) 15:29, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- You're welcome. The image has been updated and restored. (You may still see the cached version. If so, force a redownload of the article in your browser - Ctrl+F5 in Firefox - for the change to be visible.) Resolute 00:39, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- That should work...thank you! Citobun (talk) 15:29, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2014
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I believe there's an error with which leg Terry Fox lost. It is written as his left but believe Terry Fox lost his right leg above knee
66.183.103.46 (talk) 18:57, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
- I can't find anywhere in the article that it says the left leg was amputated. -- Diannaa (talk) 19:18, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2014
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Update "A crowd of 10,000 people"
to "On July 11th, a crowd of 10,000 people" Derrett (talk) 19:22, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 6 August 2014
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Please change 'oversized' in the paragraph titled 'Honours' under the section 'Legacy' to 'larger than life' as 'oversized' does not feel appropriate to readers, especially while talking about as inspirational a personality as Terry Fox.117.216.166.55 (talk) 17:08, 6 August 2014 (UTC) 117.216.166.55 (talk) 17:08, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- I don't like "larger than life" is a good fit either. For me, it carries connotations of being weasel wording. I agree with you on "oversized", though. For now, I simply removed the world entirely. It is pretty much assumed that statues of people will be made larger than they were in real life. The terminology is redundant. Thanks, Resolute 17:15, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
how long did terry fox have cancer
how long did terry fox have cancer — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.216.99.151 (talk) 16:31, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
- He was first diagnosed in March 1977, and died in June 1981, so a little over four years between those two points. For general reference, talk pages such as these are usually meant for discussing article improvements. The Reference Desk is a good place to ask general topic questions. Cheers! Resolute 16:57, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2015
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From the Album "Tonight I'm Yours" By Rod Stewart: The song "Never Give Up on a Dream" was dedicated to Canadian athlete Terry Fox, who ran 3,339 miles with one prosthetic leg in the Marathon of Hope to raise money for cancer research. Fox succumbed to cancer in 1981, the year the album was released. I believe there is more specifics but there is a popular YouTube video of Terry with the Song. Jinx21fan (talk) 05:14, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 12 July 2015
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Sometime in 1980 or 1981, Rod Stewart happened to catch a documentary on Canadian Terry Fox. The heroic Fox attempted to raise awareness and funds for cancer research in 1980 by running the length of Canada despite have a prosthetic leg.
"I saw it on TV and thought that's certainly worth a song" Stewart remarked during an interview to promote Tonight I'm Yours. "Obviously it's worth a lot more than just a song but I though that's what I can do to help Terry raise awareness."
Stewart and guitarist Jim Creagan enlisted Elton John's lyrcist Bernie Taupin to help with the song, and the final result was "Never Give on a Dream,"one of the most inspirational, moving songs in the Stewart pantheon.
Materfully produced by Stewart & Cregan, "Dream" balances itself between 80's power balladry and black gospel to form an irrestible mix that in the end is pure Rod Stewart. The song reminds me something the great critic Paul Nelson once wrote about Stewart in 1979 when Rod was the target of the punks--"Rod Stewart may not be capable of writing "God Save the Queen" but neither are the Sex Pistols capable of writing with the warmth and wisdom of Rod Stewart.
Kuddos to pianist Kevin Savigar for his stirring work on "Dream," and the Pentacostal Community Choir for providing amazing backing vocals throughout.
"I just wish people would realize that anything is possible if you try...dreams are made if people try." -Terry Fox
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Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2016
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According to Terry Fox Research Legacy at http://www.terryfoxresearchlegacy.ca/ , his causes have raised over $700 million. The Wikipedia page lists two different numbers of $650 million and $600 million. Please update, thanks !!!
Chudddds (talk) 20:24, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. clpo13(talk) 20:27, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Terry Fox / Stan Rogers song "Turnaround"
It's a shame that there is no mention of the Stan Rogers song "Turnaround," which was written about and in honor of Terry Fox; especially because only two years later, Rogers was lost in a plane fire on June 2, 1983. Two Canadian heroes. One an athlete, one a renowned singer/song writer. There should be some mention of the connection between the two. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rnds76b (talk • contribs) 02:57, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
Raised Money.
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There is now over 700 million dollars raised in Terry's name. Russialua (talk) 00:14, 18 September 2016 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 27 August 2017
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Change:
In August 1979, Fox competed in a marathon in Prince George, British Columbia.
To:
On September 2, 1979, Fox competed in a 17 mile road race in Prince George, British Columbia.
Reason: The run in which Terry Fox competed, the Prince George to Boston Marathon (now named the Labour Day Classic) has been held on the Sunday before Labour Day since 1974. In 1979, that Sunday was September 2. The newspaper source indicated below was published two days later.
Source:
bill.masich Bill.masich (talk) 02:36, 27 August 2017 (UTC) Bill.masich (talk) 02:36, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
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Change Request One
Change Request 1: The annual Terry Fox Run, first held in 1981, has grown to involve millions of participants in over 60 countries and is now the world's largest one-day fundraiser for cancer research; over C$650 million has been raised in his name.
To: The annual Terry Fox Run, first held in 1981, has grown to involve millions of participants in over 60 countries and is now the world's largest one-day fundraiser for cancer research; over C$750 million has been raised in his name, as of January 2018.
Reason: Updated funds raised in Terry Fox's name, as of 2018.
Source: http://www.terryfox.org/terrys-story
Change Request Two
Change Request 2 (section: Legacy): These advances in treatment might be partly attributable to the $650 million raised since Terry Fox started his Marathon of Hope.
To: These advances in treatment might be partly attributable to the $750 million raised since Terry Fox started his Marathon of Hope, as of January 2018.
Reason: Updated funds raised in Terry Fox's name, as of 2018.
Source: http://www.terryfox.org/terrys-story/
Change Request Three
Change Request 3 (subsection: Terry Fox Run): The Terry Fox Run is the world's largest one-day fundraiser for cancer research,[104] and over $600 million has been raised in his name.
To: The Terry Fox Run is the world's largest one-day fundraiser for cancer research,[104] and over $750 million has been raised in his name, as of January 2018.
Reason: Updated funds raised in Terry Fox's name, as of 2018.
Source: http://www.terryfox.org/terrys-story
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Section on honours
The section on honours could mention how he was voted second in a poll to find the Greatest Canadian. Vorbee (talk) 19:38, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2020
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Xfhxzf (talk) 22:03, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
- Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Darth Flappy «Talk» 22:09, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
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In the fourth paragraph of "Early life and cancer", change "enrol" to "enroll" (first sentence). 99.199.132.83 (talk) 06:15, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
- Declined. "Enrol" seems to be preferred in Canadian English. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:33, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
Suggested Title Change
Instead of "attitudes to disability"; what about, "view on disability,"? Attitudes to disability most certainly can be read in a negative connotation which isn't viewpoint neutral. I would love for someone more well versed in Wiki editing to assist in this manner if it is agreeable. 24.255.224.90 (talk) 03:34, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Ok. "This article has been viewed enough times in a single week to appear in the Top 25 Report. The week in which this happened: September 13 to 19, 2020." Not ONE single editor has the time to even respond to my request? The article is locked & I can't edit it myself otherwise I would have. Someone fix this or otherwise, make an articulable argument as to why it should not be changed.24.255.224.90 (talk) 03:01, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- "Attitudes to disability" isn't even good English. I've changed the section title. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:15, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- JFC, Where have you been? Thank you! Way better, including my suggested edit. Merci! 24.255.224.90 (talk) 04:35, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Statistic change
The Terry Fox organization declares that they have raised $850 million CAD, not $800 million CAD, as is suggested by the first paragraph
- Do you have a source for that? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:04, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Proposed merge of Terry Fox Run into Terry Fox
Much of this information is redundant to the information in the article and not independently notable. Select, sourced international runs could be mentioned, but it wouldn't be at an amount that would overwhelm the article's content. Thoughts? Star Mississippi 18:04, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
- I wouldn't agree that the run is not notable, since there's plenty of sourcing available on it. Seems like a reasonable child article. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:38, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
- I don't agree either per Nikkimaria. There are lots of sources about person and the runs that do not overlap in massive ways, a per the sources and, incidentally, per my Canadian experience. A "child article" is a good non-gendered version of the typical phrase that I haven't heard before!! I like it! --Slp1 (talk) 02:03, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
WP:URFA/2020 and reverted changes
Hi @Slp1:, @Resolute: and other talk page watchers: I am conducting a review of this article as part of WP:URFA/2020, an initiative to review featured articles that were promoted before 2016 and hopefully help them maintain their FA status. As I was reviewing, I was making edits to the article to address various concerns under WP:BEBOLD. Some of my proposed edits were reverted, so I want to discuss these changes on this talk page to get other editor's opinions. I am also going to pause my edits here, and instead make comments below on how I think this article can be improved: I want to avoid an FAR (and I don't think this article needs one if concerns are addressed) because there is already such a backlog of articles that are slated to brought to FAR (and frankly, those articles are generally in worse condition than this one.)
Some of the language that I wanted to change or remove are listed below in quotes. My rationale for the changes are described after the quote, and I hope others will give their thoughts on these proposed changes:
- "people from all walks of life lent their support to his run and his memory inspires pride in all regions of the country.": I was concerned that this lanaguage had an MOS:IDIOM with "all walks of life" and wanted to use different language. I felt "his memory inspires pride in all regions of the country" was not WP:NPOV and was too general to be understood by some editors on Wikipedia. I proposed changing this to, "people with various backgrounds supported to his run." although it doesn't have to be this exact language.
- I removed this text: "As Fox's advocate on The Greatest Canadian, media personality Sook-Yin Lee compared him to a classic hero, Phidippides, the runner who delivered the news of the Battle of Marathon before dying, and asserted that Fox "embodies the most cherished Canadian values: compassion, commitment, perseverance". She highlighted the juxtaposition between his celebrity, brought about by the unforgettable image he created, and his rejection of the trappings of that celebrity." I felt that this section had too much detail about Fox's profile on The Greatest Canadian. As this section already had information about his inclusion on the show, I felt this information was unneeded in this article and was too much detail for what is essentially only Sook-Yin Lee's opinion.
- I removed the following quote from Fox's mother: "She recalled, "He said, 'I thought you'd be one of the first persons to believe in me.' And I wasn't. I was the first person who let him down"." The preceeding sentence described how Fox's mother initially discouraged Fox from conducting his marathon, so I felt this quote was unnecessary as the information she described was already established in the article.
I do not think the other reversions that were made are important enough to note here: many were changes of minor grammar, flow or phrasing significance that I do not think are worth mentioning or changing back. Since some editors had concerns over my edits, I did not conduct additional changes to the article. Here are additional concerns that I have to the article:
- The Honours section has bullet points, lots of short sentences, and feels disorganised. I suggest that this section be rewritten as completely prose (no bullet points) and the information arranged thematically. I am happy to conduct this rewrite if others are willing for this to proceed.
- The paragraph starting with "Rock musician Ian Thomas had" needs a citation
- The "Steve Fonyo and Rick Hansen" talks about their connection to Fox, but I am unclear as to how Fox inspired the two people to conduct their own initiatives. This connection should be more explicit.
- The currency section should probably be merged into Honours.
- Some book references are included in the Bibliography, while others are only listed in the Citations section. This should be standardised.
Please ping me in responses. Z1720 (talk) 23:58, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- I am sorry for the delay but I have been busy elsewhere on Wikipedia and in real life. I will try to get to this as soon as possible. The next few weeks are very busy too, but I have not forgotten. Slp1 (talk) 02:06, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
New map?
Hi talk page watchers: I was concerned that the map in the article was difficult to discern at thumb-size because of additional information on the map that was not important to this article, such as labeling of cities like Happy Valley-Goose Bay or Sept-Iles and what appeared to be electricity lines or train tracks. I asked Guerillero to create an alternative map with less lines and information on it, making it easier to see Fox's route when the image is thumb-sized. Would editors be amenable to replacing the map with Guerillero's map? Are there any suggestions to improve the map? Both maps are included on the right. Z1720 (talk) 03:01, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
- Strong Support. (talk) 08:41, 18 April 2022 (UTC)