Talk:Te Pōrere Redoubts/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Zawed (talk · contribs) 08:02, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk · contribs) 03:38, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

I will take a look at this shortly. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 03:38, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

Prelim

• Article is stable.
• Images are correctly licensed.
• No duplicated links.
• Earwig reports 19.4% copyvio but this appears to be exclusively repetition of the words "the New Zealand Wars".

Lede and infobox

• "The Te Pōrere Redoubts were fortifications" Might be best to re-phrase this, as they still exist although obviously not in use!

• Rephrased. Zawed (talk) 09:45, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• "Māori aligned with the government—known as kūpapa" > "kūpapa Māori aligned with the government"?

• If its OK, I prefer the current wording; it is based on phrasing used in an A-Class article. Zawed (talk) 07:39, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Useful to include in the lede when the redoubts were abandoned/last used

• Added. Zawed (talk) 09:45, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• The infobox caption should be drastically shortened - that's the opposite of "at a glance"!

• Trimmed, that was actually added by another editor. Zawed (talk) 09:45, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

• The 3 March 2006 date isn't given in full in main text

• Added. Zawed (talk) 09:45, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

History

• Link Siege of Ngatapa

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• "Te Kooti perpetuated"

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Is there a connection between Te Kooti and the Ngāti Tūwhareto? I see this is mentioned later on but could do with some specific clarification

• Have added mention of his support among this tribe. Zawed (talk) 08:16, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Description

• "were consisted of three distinct"

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• "Rotoaira Lake" For consistency based on earlier mention, reverse the words?

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• "in practice were poorly angled" What does this mean?

• Rephrased. Zawed (talk) 08:22, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Link loop holes

• Done. Zawed (talk) 07:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• "declination" probably not the best way of describing the loop hole phenomenon

• Rephrased. Zawed (talk) 08:22, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

Site

• Link breastworks

• Done. Zawed (talk) 09:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• "Te Pōrere is considered to be the best preserved pā site in New Zealand" by who?

• Have clarified. Zawed (talk) 09:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• "although not the best example" why?

• Have clarified. Zawed (talk) 09:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• Is the aerial photograph of the upper redoubt the best representation of the main fortification? If so it might be beneficial to crop the photo to focus more on the redoubt itself. The James McDonald sketch might also be viable for this

• I prefer to retain the image as it is because it provides an indication of the ruggedness of the terrain. Zawed (talk) 09:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• The plaque image caption needs a citation

• I have expanded a little in the main body so this covers the same material discussed in that caption. Zawed (talk) 09:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

• I think more could be written on the significance of the site; ref. #2 speaks about the modern significance for example

• I have added some detail in the final paragraph. Zawed (talk) 09:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

References

• References look good. AGF for print sources.

@Zawed: Hi, that's all I have for now. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 21:18, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

@Pickersgill-Cunliffe: Thanks for taking this one on, I think it is ready for another look now. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 09:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)

@Pickersgill-Cunliffe: a ping to make sure you haven't missed this one. Cheers, Zawed (talk) 08:13, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

@Zawed: As per every review I seem to do nowadays, apologies for dropping off the face of the earth. I'm passing this as satisfying the GA criteria. Pickersgill-Cunliffe (talk) 23:24, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

All good, that happens to me as well! All the best! Zawed (talk) 01:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC)