Talk:Te Kaha (stadium)
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On 20 November 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Canterbury Multi-Use Arena to Te Kaha (stadium). The result of the discussion was moved. |
Requested move 20 November 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) — mw (talk) (contribs) 21:33, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Canterbury Multi-Use Arena → Te Kaha (stadium) – The new stadium is commonly being referred to by the name "Te Kaha" that's been given to it. I don't think that it's controversial to use the new name. The only thing that is worthy of discussion is whether it is the primary topic. I don't think it is and the community in the Bay of Plenty remains the primary topic, at least for now. I shall leave a note on that talk page informing editors of this discussion. Here's a link to page views for the last three months. Schwede66 20:38, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
- Support, it's under construction now so the working title is no longer the primary title, though the community should be moved itself to Te Kaha, New Zealand for the purposes of clarity. Nate • (chatter) 03:23, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom, although I wonder if "(stadium)" can be outside the parenthesis under WP:NATURAL, but fine with either. If the Bay of Plenty community is to also be moved as no longer the primary, then it should be to Te Kaha, Bay of Plenty as that and this stadium are both in New Zealand. DankJae 23:23, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
- Just before others are swayed by your two comments, I disagree with both of them. "Te Kaha" is the name of the facility, and not "Te Kaha stadium". Therefore, if it needs disambiguation, that should be parenthetical. Secondly, how we deal with disambiguation of New Zealand items is outlined in WP:NCNZ, and the stadium would NOT be disambiguated with "New Zealand". It is a "feature within a populated place" and as such,
the name of the town or city is used
for disambiguation (i.e. "Christchurch" and not "New Zealand"). Schwede66 23:02, 22 November 2023 (UTC)- Only offered the alternative as some sources use "Te Kaha stadium" and as decapitalised, can act as a descriptor. Neither of us were proposing the stadium be moved to ", New Zealand"? But the Bay of Plenty community, if as your nomination states may not be primary therefore would need disambiguation, although accept per NCNZ it should be Te Kaha (Bay of Plenty) or Te Kaha (community) instead. However to readers, both the stadium and the community are in New Zealand so seemed odd to have one be at a much vague title, so commented on that proposal. As per NCNZ, if the community is moved to Nate's suggestion, it surely would be confused with this stadium if this proposal succeeds? The community is not within any city or town, so opted for the region of Bay of Plenty.
Nonetheless, as this is outside my remit, suspended support. DankJae 14:58, 23 November 2023 (UTC)- Yes, sorry. I thought that you inferred that NZ be used as a dab for the stadium but re-reading your comment, you did not say that. Schwede66 16:56, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Fair enough, was quite confused. Happy with this one being in parenthesis, if needed, and primary at a later date. Probably best discuss the community at that page when the time comes. Tēnā koe DankJae 19:09, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, sorry. I thought that you inferred that NZ be used as a dab for the stadium but re-reading your comment, you did not say that. Schwede66 16:56, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
- Just before others are swayed by your two comments, I disagree with both of them. "Te Kaha" is the name of the facility, and not "Te Kaha stadium". Therefore, if it needs disambiguation, that should be parenthetical. Secondly, how we deal with disambiguation of New Zealand items is outlined in WP:NCNZ, and the stadium would NOT be disambiguated with "New Zealand". It is a "feature within a populated place" and as such,
- Support. And no change for Te Kaha the settlement, which remains the primary topic. Nurg (talk) 10:55, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
- Support as per above discussion. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:03, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
One N Zee Stadium
[edit]It will no longer be known as Te Kaha. I know Te Kaha is still the common name currently but this might change in the future. This 'name change' is worth mentioning in the article. Alexeyevitch(talk) 07:11, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed it is. However, we'll have to wait and see how long it'll take before the new name is the common name. Schwede66 08:31, 4 July 2024 (UTC)