Talk:Tatiana Calderón

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A fact from Tatiana Calderón appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 May 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Tatiana Calderón (pictured) increased her neck measurement through strength training by 9 cm (3.5 in) to cope with the g-forces generated by driving a Formula One car?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2020/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tatiana Calderón.

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Good Article Nomination 1

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sportsfan77777 (talk · contribs) 02:59, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

in Colombia and the United States ===>>> in either Colombia or the United States (to clarify that she is not the first to win both, but the first in Colombia, and also the first in the US)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 07:43, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
the test driver <<<=== Just confirming, is she the only test driver on the team?
- Yes she is MWright96 (talk) 08:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Is it normal to leave out the driver's height in the infobox?
- Yes, because the infobox racing template does not allow an editor to add the driver's height MWright96 (talk) 08:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a specific type of car or race that she does most often? Or has she participated in so many different types of auto races that it's not worth trying to generalize or mention? Based on all of the different racing series she has been in, I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.
- No specific type of car MWright96 (talk) 08:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Early life

Both of her parents operate a Kia Motors dealership in Bogotá. ===>>> Here parents operate a Kia Motors dealership together in Bogotá.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 07:43, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Karting

She was inspired by ===>>> Calderón was inspired by (Since the previous starts with her mother)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 07:43, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
rammed by her male rivals and she retaliated ===>>> rammed by her male rivals, forcing her to retaliate (The other way doesn't have parallel sentence structure.)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 07:43, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The success led to Calderón receiving her first few outings racing cars, at the age of 14, <<<=== I couldn't find this in any of the sources. (And is "outings racing cars" correct? I'm not sure what means.)
- Reworded the sentence and removed that detail MWright96 (talk) 07:43, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2009

one class victory, ten category podium finishes and accrued ===>>> one class victory and ten category podium finishes, accruing (Also, should "class victory" be "race victory"? And is a "category podium" different from a "podium"?)
- Rewriten MWright96 (talk) 07:43, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Calderón entered the final three weekends <<<=== Start a new sentence (unless it's directly related to Soucek?)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 07:43, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
She had tyre issues during her European Series campaign, and Double R Racing's inexperience competing in the championship meant she scored no points in the season. ===>>> Maybe something like "She scored no points during her European Series campaign, in part because..." (I don't feel like either of the first two necessarily imply she wouldn't be able to score points?)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 07:43, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Circuit de Catalunya but was illegible ===>>> Circuit de Catalunya but was ineligible
- Done MWright96 (talk) 07:43, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2015

Calderón moved from Arden ===>>> Calderón switched teams from Arden
- Done MWright96 (talk) 08:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2019

for the 2019 FIA Formula 2 Championship and the first woman to drive in the series ===>>> for the 2019 FIA Formula 2 Championship and became the first woman to drive in the series
- Done MWright96 (talk) 08:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
and she had two race engineers over the season <<<=== Split into a separate sentence, or make clearer how it fits into the current one.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 08:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Calderón scored no points and was 22nd in the drivers' standings (add something like ", narrowly missing out on scoring points with an 11th place at (name of LEC / Circuit Paul Ricard race) and four 13th place finishes.")
- Done a little differently to make it concise MWright96 (talk) 08:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
attaining a best finish of 25th in the second race ===>>> retiring in the first race and finishing at 25th in last place in the second.
- Done MWright96 (talk) 08:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
at the all-female ===>>> on the all-female
- Done MWright96 (talk) 08:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Driving style

Calderón's short stature (add "of 5 ft 4 in" with the convert template)
- Done MWright96 (talk) 08:42, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Racing record

Okay.

Overall

Well-sourced.
No dab links.
Can you add short descriptions to the date sub-section headers under racing career to highlight key points (e.g. races, teams, or accomplishments)?
- Added MWright96 (talk) 12:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's hard to follow all of the different series, but at the same time, I don't think there is a way to fix that.

Very solid! Placing on hold. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 11:37, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Sportsfan77777: Have made changes to the article in accordance with the suggestions raised above. MWright96 (talk) 12:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Passing, good work! Sportsfan77777 (talk) 19:24, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - MWright96, one more thing: Do you want to add the article to the Women in Green sports goals list for 2020?
    - @Sportsfan77777: Yes. Have added the article to the list MWright96 (talk) 06:21, 28 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportsfan77777 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:07, 11 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Article history

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... that Tatiana Calderón grew her neck by 9 cm (3.5 in) to cope with the g-forces felt by a woman racing driver in a Formula One car? Source: Ad Diriyah test driver profile: Tatiana Calderón" - e-racing.net
- ALT1:... that Tatiana Calderón is the first Latin American woman to drive a Formula One car? Source: Motor racing: Calderon sets a female F1 first for Latin America - Reuters
- ALT2:... that Tatiana Calderón is the first woman to win a national karting championship in either Colombia and the United States? Source: Formula One test driver Tatiana Calderón is in a league of her own - ESPN

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/First Battle of Newtonia Historic District

Improved to Good Article status by MWright96 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:59, 26 April 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Y Article is long enough (16k characters), is a GA, nominated in time (GA on 25 April, nominated on same day), and article is within policy
? ALT0 is short enough, interesting and in the article. It's sourced by [1], although this looks like a fansite and not a reliable source. MWright96 what makes [2] a reliable source? And if it isn't, could you find another source for ALT0? Hooks ALT1 & ALT2 are both well sourced, although I think ALT0 is most interesting (we have too many "first" hooks on DYK in my opinion)
Y QPQ done
Question mark on reliability of the hook source is only outstanding issue. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:16, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Joseph2302: The site you are referring in the links to is accredited by the FIA, the world governing body of racing, and e-racing.net have sent their staff overseas to report on Formula E races. MWright96 (talk) 16:24, 27 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - MWright96 That's fine then, it's clearly a reliable source then. Thank you for explaining. Good to go. Joseph2302 (talk) 11:00, 29 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

— Preceding unsigned comment added by MWright96 (talk • contribs) 10:59, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The claim about the neck

In the source for the statement about the neck increasement, the neck size is something Calderón claims and reports about herself in an interview ("I need to strengthen the neck, so yes is true it grow 9cms"). Hence it is Calderón herself rather than e-racing.net that is the source for the claim. It may very well be true, but as currently phrased in the article (as an objective fact) it must be verified and reported as true by someone independent from Calderón. Another option is to add in-text attribution. (When this was on the main page, I also reported it here). --Bensin (talk) 11:51, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Bensin: I have changed the wording of the claim accordingly MWright96 (talk) 11:56, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! That's better. --Bensin (talk) 12:03, 17 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]