Talk:Tablet (pharmacy)

Note page renames to related pages

I renamed two related pages:

• encapsulation (pharmacology) to capsule (pharmacy)
• pill (pharmacology) to pill (pharmacy)

to make these terms consistent (denoting an object rather than process) and because there were objections on the encapsulation talk page that pharmacology has a related, but distinct scope of concern. MaxEnt (talk) 22:12, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Added a rating

The article has no sources, so it is obviously stub class. The complete lack of sources for such a fundamental concern is an embarrassement, so I rated it high importance just to get this fixed. MaxEnt (talk) 22:19, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I'd say that even if the article were in good shape, it would count as high importance, because tablets are one of the major drug dosage forms. --Slashme (talk) 06:20, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Invention of them

Were pills, tablets, any kind of medicine you swallow without tasting, made that way so you wouldn't have to chew or drink them? I heard that liquid medicines and medicines you injested and had to taste in the process were considered so bad tasting that even sick people would say they were well again so they wouldn't have to take it again. This way you don't have to 66.189.38.7 (talk) 08:55, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

In general, if a medicine actually works, it's a good idea that it be easy to take so that people will not avoid taking it; see compliance (medicine) for a full discussion. However, if a medicine is only effective because the patient believes that it works (see placebo) it's good to make it taste strong, so that the patients are very aware that they have been treated! As you say, an unpleasant treatment may also discourage malingering.--Slashme (talk) 06:25, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Richard Francis Burton impersonated a doctor during his pilgrimage to Mecca, and gave the following advice to people who wanted to do the same:

Whatever you prescribe must be solid and material, and if you accompany it with something painful, such as rubbing to scarification with a horse-brush, so much the better. Easterns, like our peasants in Europe, wish the doctor to “give them the value of their money.” Besides which, rough measures act beneficially upon their imagination. So the Hakim of the King of Persia cured fevers by the bastinado; patients are beneficially baked in a bread-oven at Baghdad; and an Egyptian at Alexandria, whose quartan resisted the strongest appliances of European physic, was effectually healed by the actual cautery, which a certain Arab Shaykh applied to the crown of his head.

--Slashme (talk) 06:32, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

It holds true today also? Have you ever chewed a non-chewable pill? Perhaps before you learned how to swallow pills? It tastes horrible and bitter as hell The snare (talk) 03:37, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, some of them are (e.g. acetaminophen, quinine (ugh), cortisone) and some aren't (e.g. calcium supplements, vit. E pills etc.) and some are just plain nasty, without being bitter (Ever tried chewing a multivitamin softgel? It's an experience I would recommend to all the masochists out there). -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slashme (talk • contribs) 10:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Content merged from Talk:Tablet and dose preparation, pharmaceutical preparation

This article is part of a student project on Downstream_processing. Please do not edit until after December 14, 2006. Thank you.Emk39 20:03, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey Elaine, I read your article -- it's very well written and flows nicely. One thing is that there are no internal links in the article right now. I don't know if you just didn't put them in yet but they would be useful with some of the terms in your article. Also, there is an error with the heading of "table properties," it appears twice. Also, references need to be added to the article. Besides these technical types of corrections, the paper is very well done.

Priya Shoor 20:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey Elaine, I read your article too. I agree with what Priya said, it is very well done. I sent you an e-mail with a word document with my corrections. I hope it is helpful.

Evjammin 07:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

hey, I like the way you segmented your article, makes it easier to follow. I also agree with the previous comments about maybe adding a few internal links. Overall, it flowed very well and it seems like you addressed the main points of your topic without getting too wordy about it. Very well written :) -Avani

Snickerr291 19:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey Elaine - I like your article. I think that you remove the intro section and have it come before the categories part (that way people can read a little about the article before going more in depth). Also, you might want to add websites that are related to you site (possibly drug companies) or something like (read it over): http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn3433

ReginaSophia 21:03, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi Everyone! Thank you so much for your reviews and I took all of them into consideration I tried to add as much as I can, but I really wanted to add more mathematical problems and examples but they some are really difficult to find. I would like to keep expanding this article as I find more information that would be usefull to the overall down-stream processing information on wikipedia. I also want everyone who is willing and has the information to contribute to this article. Emk39 04:48, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Tablet Coating

I just moved this section to the end of the article where it belongs--7amada'sback:) (talk) 11:51, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

What's the difference between "tablet" and "pill"?

This article and the pill (pharmacy) one indicate that pill and tablet are not the same thing. Well, what's the difference? 76.24.104.52 (talk) 19:47, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

-- A tablet is made by compressing a powder into the final unit. Pills are made by making a paste or dough and cutting (think cookie cutter) it up into blobs that will be the final unit. --Elijah (talk) 04:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

For what it's worth, colloquially, both are frequently called "pills". 71.58.112.179 (talk) 16:24, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved by Breawycker. Jafeluv (talk) 10:34, 25 December 2011 (UTC)

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• Tablet → Tablet (pharmacy)
• Tablet (disambiguation) → Tablet

– There is no primary topic. My dictionary gives stone, clay, or wood tablet as the first definition; the shape, typically the dosing form as the second; and the writing pad or tablet computer as the third. In 2011, all three of these seem to be likely uses. Consistent with Capsule (pharmacy). Pnm (talk) 21:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

• Support. People might be after all sorts of things under the rubric "tablet", as the present DAB page suggests. We should show immediately what this article is about. It would be churlish not to! Noetica^Tea? 00:43, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
• Support some sort of rename. "pharmacy" doesn't seem that good though. A "tablet" is a flat board with writing on it, like a slate tablet used in schools, or a clay tablet containing cuneiform. Suggest Tablet (pharmaceutical) or Tablet (pharmacology) . 76.65.128.198 (talk) 06:28, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

  Please see Talk:Capsule (pharmacy)#Page name for an explanation of why "pharmacy" is an appropriate description. —David Levy 07:00, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

  "Pharmacy" in American English overwhelmingly refers to a section of a retail store set aside for dispensing of pharmaceuticals. Using it to mean the actual dispensing rather than the location where it occurs could be confusing. Powers ^T 15:56, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

  Exactly the same in British English, thought the normal word is "chemists", except for the ones in hospitals etc. Johnbod (talk) 16:02, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

  While it's true that in spoken English "pharmacy" is usually the supermarket section, it's apparent from scanning pharmacy that in writing, the word can and does refer to the profession of dispensing drugs as well. Pharmacy school is another familiar example of such, which is always how I've heard it described; not "pharmacist school." WP:NCDAB suggests using the simplest form, which is why I prefer Tablet (pharmacy) to Tablet (pharmaceuticals). (Consider also that consistency is among the title criteria, though Capsule (pharmacy) could be reconsidered separately.) Tablet (pharmacology) is unacceptable per the discussion David Levy provided above. Frankly I don't see that "pharmacy" is ambiguous since it's not the name of any pharmacy – if I were naming an actual pharmacy that, I'd call it Tablets, not Tablet – but I'd consider Tablet (dosage form) another acceptable alternative. I think it's more recognizable than Tablet (pharmaceuticals). – Pnm (talk) 19:48, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

  I'm not suggesting that the use of the word "pharmacy" is incorrect, merely that it would be unfamiliar to most readers to use it in this sense. Powers ^T 00:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

  I'm American and don't find this usage confusing. As Pnm notes, given the context, the other meaning is unlikely to be inferred. This definition is unfamiliar to some, but it's similar enough to more widespread (but less applicable) terminology to be easily understandable. —David Levy 21:10, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

• Support. There wasn't a clear primary topic in the first place, and there certainly isn't one now (given the popularity of tablet computers). —David Levy 07:00, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
• Support -- My first reqaction was that this was a nom to get a tablet computer as primary, and I am glad to find that is not the case. If anything is primary it is a writing tablet, either of clay or wood with a wax coating, but I will be happy to have the dab page as primary. I agree that Tablet (pharmacy) has the best disambiguator. "Pharmaceutical" and "Pharmacology" are both derivatives relating to particular aspects of pharmacy. Peterkingiron (talk) 11:24, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

  It seems we computing contributors have a bad reputation at WP:RM! :) – Pnm (talk) 20:29, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

• Support in general as no primary topic. Not sure about new name: "pharmacology", "medicine" or just "pill" might be better disambiguators.Johnbod (talk) 14:45, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Revert of recent additions

I have reverted the recent additions made Sept 16 through Sept 20, 2012 for several reasons: 1) much of the text suffers from absence of context, making the meaning unclear at times, 2) much of it is formatted as an outline with sentence fragments that don't constitute coherent prose, 3) it is highly technical overly detailed at times, which is not appropriate for an encyclopedia article, 4) it is entirely unreferenced, and 5) as noted by another editor, it is possibly plagiarized (cut-and-pasted from elsewhere). If anyone would like to recover some of the content I have removed and incorporate it into the article in a coherent way, please feel free to do so - the content is still available in the article history. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:13, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

The Pill

@McGeddon: & @Johnbod: The use of colloquialism in a scientific article is not acceptable because people all around the world have various colloquialisms regarding various medication. Insisting that one word is colloquial for a medication above all is biased and that's why it ought to be removed. Unless a citation is provided that 'The Pill' actually refers to contraceptive pill by majority of usage, then it will have to be removed to avoid confusing. Just so you are aware, 'The Pill' can refer to any medication that applies to a certain group; e.g. LGBT individuals might refer 'The Pill' as antiretrovial medication; women might refer 'The Pill' as contraceptive. Because of its generic usage, it is not appropriate to include a colloquialism for it here. Thereof. Vormeph (talk) 14:14, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

So long as the caption isn't confusing to somebody who's never heard of it, it seems quite informative to the reader to mention that a particular style of tablet gained the nickname (even if only for a few decades and in a few countries) of "the pill". --McGeddon (talk) 14:18, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

@McGeddon: Much like drugs have nicknames, so can meds; but in all entirey the image itself is irrelevant because the article is about tablets in general, not a particular type of tablet. I can still remove it based on that criteria. The image caption has to be genericised or removed entirely.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vormeph (talk • contribs) 14:21, 12 February 2016‎

The image is illustrating a paragraph of the article which discusses pills, in a section about types of tablets. If you think the entire section is wrong or off-topic, fair enough, but so long as it's there there's no reason not to illustrate it. --McGeddon (talk) 14:24, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Indeed. Johnbod (talk) 14:26, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

@McGeddon: & @Johnbod: To be honest with you, the [Pill]] article is really redundant and should best be dedicated a section within the Tablet article. Regardless of nick-names, since they were called hither since the 1960s I have to challenge whether such a colloquialism is still current. Indeed, it is a generation thing and time's are changing. Thus I think we ought to consider merging the [Pill]] article with the Tablet article. If you do that, the image can stay but the caption will have to be discriminated such that it does not sanction colloquialism over the correct medical terms. I am not against colloquialism, but this is not the article to advance such language. Vormeph (talk) 14:50, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Probably a good idea, as Pill (pharmacy) is a very short article with an inappropriate tangent about "sensory and communication elements", which could be dropped - do you want to propose a formal WP:MERGE discussion? --McGeddon (talk) 15:32, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

February 2016 merger proposal

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

The result of this discussion was to merge. Chhandama (talk) 04:39, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

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@McGeddon:, @Johnbod: et al; BE IT PROPOSED that the article Pill be considered for a merger with the Tablet article. The reasons are that the Pill article lacks enough substance to have merit as a verifiable article and that its relationship with Tablet is so similar that the Pill article should instead have its own section. Indeed, this will also clear up ambiguity over the image and image caption of pills on the Tablet article which has roused the attention of various contributors. Vormeph (talk) 16:02, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

• Support, assuming you mean Pill (pharmacy) - Pill is the disambiguation page. The only paragraph that doesn't really fit here is the one about the radio transmitter pills, but it doesn't belong there either. --McGeddon (talk) 16:09, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

• Support: The Pill (pharmacy) article is so short that it can easily be integrated into the Tablet (pharmacy) article. Not only that, but the former article has content which is offtopic and irrelevant. In including the said article herein we can also justify and end the quarrel surrounding the contraceptive tablets, which are in fact such because pills are no longer produced. Offtopic: The Pill as slang for contraceptive tablet has dated usage and is probably discriminated based on usage by older generations. Vormeph (talk) 17:54, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

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What about mini tablets?

They are now not mentioned. http://www.americanpharmaceuticalreview.com/Featured-Articles/190921-Minitablets-Manufacturing-Characterization-Methods-and-Future-Opportunities/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28432019

ee1518 (talk) 16:57, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

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The name of a pill.

What is the name of this pill the number on it is 610? 75.185.246.227 (talk) 23:44, 27 June 2023 (UTC)