Talk:Swim School/GA1
GA Review
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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Nominator: Launchballer (talk · contribs) 08:38, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
Reviewer: AirshipJungleman29 (talk · contribs) 00:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
I'll take this review; it'll be used as part of the WikiCup and the ongoing backlog drive. Please consider signing up for both, but especially the latter—the GA backlog is large. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Will assess any concerns once I've slept, as I was about to go up. In the interim, pinging @Georgeykiwi:, with whom I wrote this.--Launchballer 00:52, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria
- Is it well written?
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch,
fiction, and list incorporation:
- A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:
- Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):
- C. It contains no original research:
- D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:
- A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:
- Is it broad in its coverage?
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):
- A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:
- Is it neutral?
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:
- Is it stable?
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:
- Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:
- A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:
- Overall:
- Pass or Fail:
- Pass or Fail:
Comments
[edit]- Images are fine. Article is stable.
- Lead section needs to summarise the "artistry" subsection.
- Added a sentence.--Launchballer 05:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- "Mitchell and Milne later left the band" is sort of glossed over in the body — we have "the first song they recorded without Milne" and "Swim School became a three-piece in November 2022". A bit more clarity there would be nice. Also, since it wasn't always a three-piece, the first sentence could just say "Scottish indie rock band".
- Clarified both, reworded first sentence.--Launchballer 14:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Not silly enough to invoke MOS:OVERSECTION as part of the GA criteria, but the three subsections in "History" are unneeded—the prose would probably flow better without any.
- "told Bodega Social Club in May 2020" is unneeded—a huge amount of information in the article comes from what the band members have revealed, so it's not really relevant when and who they told. Same goes for the numerous other times in the article: "an August 2021 interview with Guitar.com", "a January 2024 interview with The Skinny", etc. The phrasing of "used an interview to say something" is also somewhat odd.
- Removed all except for the last two sentences of Artistry, as they comprise attributed opinions. The words "used" and "interview" no longer appear in the article.--Launchballer 05:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- That Bunting was previously in bands is mentioned twice.
- Actually, I've cut both as well as much of that paragraph, as I suspect using the bandmembers as sources on other bandmembers violates WP:BLP.--Launchballer 22:47, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure the lengthy quote on the side is needed, considering the event is summarised in the body.
- "They met up again after the first lockdown, and invited Indigo Velvet's guitarist Billy McMahon along" seems a bit excessive detail, but if it is to be kept, "first lockdown" should be linked for non-UK readers.
- Trimmed.--Launchballer 14:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- "explaining their unusual release strategy to Metal, the band attributed the practice to wanting to surprise their fans" "strategy" and "practice" implies this wasn't the only time such a thing happened, but the source doesn't suggest that, I don't think. You could cut everything bar "to surprise their fans".
- Trimmed.--Launchballer 14:53, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Is inclusion on a "Hype List 2024" an award/accolade? Seems a bit far-fetched to me. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:59, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
- Cut - I found a secondary source that mentions it, so I added it to the body. I believe I've resolved all your concerns @AirshipJungleman29:, please ping if I've forgotten anything.--Launchballer 05:48, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- Spotcheck
- Five sources checked, all good there.
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.