Talk:Svayamvara

This practice seems to have been followed in the Western World too, at various times. In William Shakespeare's The Merchant of Venice, Portia chooses Bassanio through a test of his love for her over gold. Notable examples from fairytales and European folklore also come from the stories of the Brothers Grimm, in such tales as "The Three Snake Leaves," where an infatuated suitor must first agree to be buried alive in the grave of his beloved if he survives her, "The White Snake" where the suitor must first perform three difficult and seemingly impossible tasks, "The Three Spinners," where a poor maiden is forced to spin a room full of flax in order to marry a prince, and many others.

This part is not swayamvara. This is the competition to marry the princes. Swayamvara is not the competition to marry the princess but it is only a part of the process. Sometimes the competition did not take place at all and the princess is allowed to marry the prince of her choice after hearing the biodata of each prince (Which include his act of bravery or his love for his people, the charity he made etc etc). It is for the Princess to decide whether competition need to be held or not, or it need to be conducted according to her wish. The rejection of Karna by Draupati makes it clear that she did not wish to marry him and keeps him out of the competition to make sure that Arjuna wins it and she can marry him. And swayamvara is conducted for only the princess and not by the prince. So the above article can put in an appropriate post like competition conducted for marriage or something like that. --Chanakyathegreat 09:02, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

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Did you know nomination

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The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Launchballer talk 23:36, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

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The Svayamvara ceremony of princess Damayanti by Warwick Goble, 1913

• ... that in ancient Indian literature, princesses would select their husbands from a lineup of suitors or through public contests in the distinctive matrimonial tradition called Svayamvara (pictured)?

• Source: A Dictionary of Hinduism, Oxford Publications "For the daughter of a royal or a kṣatriya family, a way of selecting a husband which takes the form of either of a public contest between her suitors, or an assembly at which the bride-to-be simply chooses between them. Perhaps the best-known instances occur in the Mahābhārata, where Arjuna wins Draupadī by this method, and Damayantī prefers Nala to any of the assembled gods."
• Brockington, John L (2006). "Epic Svayaṃvaras, Voice of the Orient: a Tribute to Prof. Upendranath Dhal". Academia.edu: 35–42.

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5x expanded by Seyamar (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

Seyamar_(245CMR)^💬📜 06:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC).

• : Seems new and long enough, almost entirely written by nominator; I have a few very minor problems with the sourcing that I think can be resolved by just copying some nearby sources, which I tagged: specifically, I think there should be a citation for the 1st paragraph of "Svayamvara in the Rg Veda" and one place in the 1st paragraph of "Damayantī's Svayamvara". Also, I think it would be more clear if the source at the end of the last paragraph of the lead were duplicated to the first two paragraphs as well if it applies to them, and per the DYK guidelines, I think that the source given has to be present at the end of the sentence giving the claim present in the hook. Don't see any neutrality issues. Article is (listing criteria) presentable, image & hook seem good, no other complaints. As for copyvio, not sure what the standards are on manual "spot-checks", so I'm leaving that for a second reviewer. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

@User:Mrfoogles, done what you have suggested.Seyamar_(245CMR)^💬📜 06:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Y Citation problems seem resolved, all that's left is a copyright check. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

• @Mrfoogles: Have you completed the copyright check, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 14:39, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

I was hoping someone else would also double-check my copyright checking (which is done, but I’m new), but that doesn’t seem to be happening anytime soon, so I’ll approve it. Mrfoogles (talk) 14:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

@Mrfoogles: Is the review completed?Seyamar_(245CMR)^💬📜 18:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

The green check in the circle means yes (it's a special DYK one that means it was accepted). Mrfoogles (talk) 18:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

@Z1720 Any update, it has been passed quite a long ago.Seyamar_(245CMR)^💬📜 17:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

@Seyamar: The article is at WP:DYKNA: it will be moved into a prep set when there is an open spot. Z1720 (talk) 18:13, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Unpromoted due to this discussion at WT:DYK—extensive sourcing problems with significant information not verified by sources. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 01:52, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

@Seyamar and Mrfoogles: Please address the above.--Launchballer 12:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

@Launchballer: already responded at the talk page of Talk:DYK, slowly Changing all ref to sfn for clarity, might take some time as currently not as free.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Seyamar (talk • contribs)

Two weeks is more than enough time to rectify the issues in this nomination @Seyamar:, and I will close this in 24 hours if I don't see some progress by then.--Launchballer 16:35, 1 November 2024 (UTC)