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Untitled

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We need a picture.

I've added the reqphoto template. BTW do you think the stub notice is still necessary? --Kompik 17:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Svetlana

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What is the patch on Svetlana's stomach???

what patch???-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 20:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation

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I added pronunciation. I hear Kuznetsova so often mispronounced as KuznEtsova, so I thought I need to make people aware - its' "KuznetsOva". If you want rephrase it, it's OK with me. --Atitarev (talk) 05:50, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request for wider input on discussion at WikiProject Tennis

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There is a long, ongoing discussion at WP:Tennis about the tournament tables found in tennis articles on English-language Wikipedia (e.g., this type of table). The discussion is about whether the "official sponsored name" of a tournament - such as Pacific Life Open - or another tournament name without the sponsor - such as Indian Wells Masters - must be used in those articles. Please join the discussion here. Thanks. Tennis expert (talk) 09:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Doubles

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Her doubles performance at the bottom needs to be updated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.52.172.78 (talk) 20:56, 6 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Transliteration note

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This may need help from someone familiar with romanised Russian, but I'm 99% sure that Cyrillic [кс] is invariably transliterated as /ks/ because of the phoneme by phoneme/grapheme by grapheme structure. The system of using /x/ in English tends to happen as a result of English as a language having adopted the name of a certain person/place, in which case it is further Anglicised with additional features. Svetlana's full name has not filtered into English as such and therefore I believe that her middle name should be presented as: Aleksandrovna. I may be totally mistaken and Russian may well use /x/ on all [кс] transcriptions; I know that this is not the case with Macedonian/Serbian, nor with Bulgarian, all the mentioned produce such names as Aleksandra and Roksanda, with words such as taksi. Evlekis (talk) 10:52, 8 June 2009 (UTC) Blocked sock:Evlekis.[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: Jezhotwells (talk) 12:40, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I shall be reviewing this article against the Good Article criteria, following its nomination for Good Article status.

Disambiguations: none found.

Linkrot: none found. Jezhotwells (talk) 12:43, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Checking against GA criteria

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GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
    I made some minor copy-edits.
    Large portions of the career section appear to be copied or closely paraphrased from {http://svetlanakuznetsova.ru/en/biography-en} which is used as reference #4. This looks like a WP:COPYVIO and needs to be addressed immediately. As such a large portion of the article is affected, I shall quick fail this nomination. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:12, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
    Quickfailed as per above. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:12, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Report to WP:Copyright problems

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I've just been looking into whether this might be a backwards copy, as the source struck me as being written in Wikipedia style and format. Looking through the history, the source seems similar to a late 2010 version of the article and covers up to the end of 2010. I've only looked at the family life section in detail so far but it seems to have gradually evolved, suggested at WP:CPAA as an indication of a backwards copy.

Earlier and much shorter versions of the article contain some of the same text as the source, and the history shows additions at various different times. This edit from 2004 when the article was a stub introduces the start of the section, copyedited here in 2006 to much the same wording the source has. "Kuznetsova also tried out cycling in her early years, but it bored her..." was added here in 2005, age she went to Spain was changed fron 15 to the current 13 in 2007.

There are no archived versions of the site in archive.org so the site may be recent. January (talk) 21:50, 20 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I contacted the admin of this site. He will tell me whether it is self-written or from Wikipedia copied.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫T 16:42, 21 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


GA Review

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Reviewer: Philcha (talk) 14:58, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, GreatOrangePumpkin. I'll mark Green tickY comments when I think they're resolved, highlight Red XN any that are unresolved when most others are done, and strike out any of comments that I later decide are mistaken. I'll sign each of my comments, so we can see who said what - please do the same.

I'll mark the review {{inuse}} when I'm working on it, as edit conflicts are frustrating. If you think I've forgotten to remove {{inuse}}, please leave a message at my Talk page. Please free to use {{inuse}} with your own signature when you're working.

I'll read the article through first, then give comments. --Philcha (talk) 14:58, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Coverage

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Green tickY Have there been any breaks in SK's career, for medical / physical reasons or relationships or other reasons? --Philcha (talk) 17:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Relationship - romances, friendships, coaches, etc. Perhaps these items could go in a section after the results, and the break between between this and "Personal life" (which I'd retitle "Early life") could be when SK went to Spain. The current "Off-Court" section could have another sub-section for relationships. "--Philcha (talk) 17:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The catalogue of results becomes relentless. I'd prefer to see only the significant ones in this article, and the full catalogue in a List, something like Pete Sampras career statistics. By "significant" I suggest: reaching semi-finals or better at major junior tournaments such as Junior Wimbledon; a lot of the first 2 years of the pro career, where she's climbing the rankings; wins against opponents much higher in the rankings; eventually only matches in major tournaments (e.g. at least 4 opponents in the top 10) against 10 top players; any slumps and recoveries. --Philcha (talk) 17:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Before we finish the review it would be best to see how she goes at Wimbledon 2011 - I appreciate that reviews often do not come at the best times. But there's enough to do in the meantime. --Philcha (talk) 17:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Structure

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Looks mainly OK, subject the comments under "Coverage". --Philcha (talk) 17:06, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life / Early life

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  • Green tickY You should give SK's full name in the first and at "She began to play tennis ...", as there are lot of other athletic Kuznetsov(a)s in the family. --Philcha

2000: ITF Junior Career

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    • I see no signifigant difference. E.g. "Kuznetsova debuted in her first International Tennis Federation (ITF) tournament in Mallorca on January 31. In the Round of 32 she defeated Katia Altilia from Italy in two straight sets, 6–0, 6–4. However, she lost in the quarterfinal to Oana–Elena Golimbioschi, 7–5, 6–1. "How about e.g. "Kuznetsova debuted in January at the International Tennis Federation (ITF) tournament in Mallorca, where she defeated Katia Altilia from Italy 6–0, 6–4, and then Petra Raclavska, but lost in the quarterfinal to Oana–Elena Golimbioschi, 7–5, 6–1." And so on. --Philcha (talk) 18:26, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Green tickY What are the scores like "5–3, 4–2, 4–5(4), 4–2"? Looks like Tennis_scoring#Alternative_Set_Scoring_formats. If you don't to give an explanation in the middle of the main text, you could insert a section "Notes" just above "References". Notes have 2 forms: for automatically numbered Notes, {{#tag:ref|''text, refs, etc.''}}, where each note can be used in only one place; and {{Note}}, where the same Note text can be used in several places, like note [a] at Maevia inclemens. --Philcha (talk) 19:43, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2001–2002

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  • "Kuznetsova began playing in tournaments on the ITF Circuit in 2000, winning her first title on the circuit in April 2001." What? "Kuznetsova began playing in tournaments on the ITF Circuit in 2000, winning her first title onin the ITF circuittournament in April 2001 ..." beating whom, especially any one ranked higher? --Philcha (talk) 18:26, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I suggest alternating "Kuznetsova" and "she"/"her" where the situation allows. --Philcha (talk) 18:26, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Green tickY Where's the citation for "Kuznetsova entered the top 100 for the first time as a result of that victory." Or did I miss something? --Philcha (talk) 19:43, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Green tickY In "defeating 19th seed Anne Kremer in the first round for her first win over a top 20 player", what citation supports "first win over a top 20 player". --Philcha (talk) 19:43, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2003

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  • I've just seen the name changes of "Uncle Tobys Hardcourts" / etc. / Brisbane International. This would be a good use for a Note, e.g. "called the Brisbane International since ..." - and that article gives 1 or 2 refs for the current name. --Philcha (talk) 09:02, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • What supports "with whom (Navratilova) she would later play throughout the year"? If / when supported, did the longer-term partnership started at Uncle Tobys or later? --Philcha (talk) 09:02, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • Where? At it now says, "... with whom she would later play throughout the year (except on the Pacific Life Open, partnered with Slovak Janette Husárová) ...", so you need to cite the exception. --Philcha (talk) 19:56, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Green tickY No score against Venus Williams in the Australian Open? <OR>Kuznetsova's score looks good, as Venus Williams was in great form, see the final.</OR>

--Philcha (talk) 09:02, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Green tickY "She did not reach the quarterfinals of any tournaments during the first half of the year. The highlight of this period was a win over World No. 11 Anastasia Myskina in the second round of the Pacific Life Open in Indian Wells, California" seems to have multiple issues:
  • "Kuznetsova won the doubles competition with Navratilova against Elena Likhovtseva and Nadia Petrova in three sets, 3–6 6–1 6–3" can be more concise and add that K & N beat L & P in the final. --Philcha (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "At the Ladies Kremlin Cup she beat Marlene Weingärtner in the first round before losing to Anna Pistolesi in the second round in two sets, 7–6(5) 6–0" should be more concise. And I question whether "beat Marlene Weingärtner in the first round" is needed - we're reaching the part of SK's career where the results appearing thick and fast, and the article need to be more selective. --Philcha (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "AtIn the doubles competition she played with Navratilova into the semifinals before losing to Russian couple and runner-up Anastasia Myskina and Vera Zvonareva, 6–7(8) 6–2 6–4" can be more concise without losing information. --Philcha (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • At "Her next tournament was the Porsche Tennis Grand Prix in Filderstadt, Germany. There, she lost to Chanda Rubin after winning the first set, but was outstanding in the latter sets, beating the 7th seed, 1–6 6–4 6–3" can be more concise without losing information. --Philcha (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm confused about "Her next tournament was the Porsche Tennis Grand Prix in Filderstadt, Germany. There, she lost to Chanda Rubin after winning the first set, but was outstanding in the latter sets, beating the 7th seed, 1–6 6–4 6–3". Was this some type of round-robin? --Philcha (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "At the doubles she received a wild-card with Anastasia Myskina, losing in the first round against Petrova and Shaughnessy in straight sets, 6–4, 6–3" may be plain wrong - Porsche Tennis Grand Prix (Oct 2003) says Myskina played with Zvonareva, and SK is not seen in the doubles. --Philcha (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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General

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  • Throughout the article, please use   (non-breaking space) between e.g. "World No. 10", so that the number cannot be separated from either the preceding "word" (in this case) or the following "word" in quantities (e.g. 1 meter). --Philcha (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hint: you don't need separate citations for the WTA PDF results table. When citing academic articles and extracts from books, I give specific page numbers if the article / extract exceeds 10 pages long (as well as giving the page number range). There are techniques for giving specific page numbers without duplicating the whole citation, but I doubt where you'd need these techniques for tennis - unless you cite long sections of books. --Philcha (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • I want this article to pass, as: I like watching tennis; and the point of reviews is to improve articles and, where needed, editors. But right now this article is far below GA standard. You've got a lot of work to do. --Philcha (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Review suspended

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  • This article is not ready for a GA review - too many issues by the end of the season 2003. Please check the whole article and fix all problems. Then please send me a message at my Talk page. I will wait for up to 3 weeks. If there are significant issues after that, I will have to fail the article. --Philcha (talk) 12:08, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also add over use of priimary sources, leads to Kutz beat so in so did this in this tournie blah blah blah. If you used sources which are news articles you would be able to better expand the article.
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Images

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Lead

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I review the lead last, to check that all of it is based on the main text.

Result of review

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Unfortunately I think there's too much still do without the review going on for another month or 2:

  • The most obvious issue is your English. Eventually I checked you User Page, and as far I can see your first language is Russian, and English is a 2nd language for you. As a result there are many places where the phrasing just looks wrong to one whose 1st language is English. As I said above, prepositions are difficult in any European language.
  • You need to check the citations all through the article.
  • Check all of the GA criteria. --Philcha (talk) 20:50, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very sorry to say that I'm going to have to fail this review. I suggest you check the citations and then ask for help with the English. The 2 obvious places where you should ask are the WikiProjects listed at Talk:Svetlana Kuznetsova and then Wikipedia:Peer review. In all cases, explain that you are 2nd-language user of English. --Philcha (talk) 20:47, 23 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I will put this to peer review. Thank you for your comments; these were very helpful and with your help the article has been improved. Eventually I must mention that it was my first true GAN; my emphasis in Wikipedia rest on WP:FLC since I joined, and I am therefore not very knowledged in respect of FA, GA. Thanks again =)!--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫Share–a–Power[citation needed] 10:11, 24 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Personal Relationship

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The information in the section is wrong and need to be removed.

" Kuznetsova, a 24-year-old Ukrainian immigrant, was diagnosed with kidney failure in March, not long after she and Solodovnik, a 26-year-old Russian immigrant, got engaged." [1]

the story was dated on August 9, 2003, and Kuznetsova was only 18 at the time not 24, she has never been married, she is Russian not Ukrainian, and she is not an immigrant living in United States, I believe they are different person, and I would suggest to possibly remove it as such event has never happened to Svetlana Kuznetsova, the tennis player. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shetachai (talk • contribs) 17:19, 21 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: MakeSense64 (talk · contribs) 11:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Some quick comments:
  • The career section appears to be overly long and too detailed. In tennis articles we generally avoid scores in prose per WP:TENSCR: "Just report the round and whether the player won or lost the match, and whom they played."
  • The names of other players that appear in the article should be spelled as they are spelled in the English-language sources used for the article. We are not supposed to add diacritics if they do not appear in our sources. E.g. "Vaidisova" is spelled like that in the source, so should be spelled like that in the article. This is according to MOS:FOREIGN.

That would be the first things to fix. MakeSense64 (talk) 11:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Actually, MOS:FOREIGN is about loanwords. For names, it is almost always better to use the spelling the article title usses on names -- because the article title is supposed to reflect the balance of sources, whereas the one source used in another article might be different in diacritics or transliteration. In this case, since the article is at Nicole Vaidišová, that's what should be used. (You'd note that the name without diacritics would be tagged as an unprintowrthy redirect, meaning that it shouldn't be linked to). Courcelles 20:04, 4 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No, MOS:FOREIGN clearly refers to names as well (actually, several examples of names are given in the section). Quoting: "For foreign names, phrases, and words generally, adopt the spellings most commonly used in English-language references for the article, unless those spellings are idiosyncratic or obsolete." (emphasis mine). There are good reasons for doing this. The title of the article only shows one name for the topic (per WP:AT, but that doesn't imply that alternative names and spellings are considered "wrong", it is just that an article can have only one title. MakeSense64 (talk) 12:55, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Vaidisova redirects to Nicole Vaidišová. Do you have any other examples?--GoPTCN 11:17, 14 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

MakeSense64 announced a summer break a week ago; a "summer is coming" break at the end of March resulted in a four-week absence. There having been no response to my query about finishing this review, I think it's reasonable to assume that it has been abandoned. With the backlog driving beginning at the end of the week, I'd imagine the best thing to do is end the review and put it back in the queue, which I'm happy to do. Thoughts from the nominator or anyone else? BlueMoonset (talk) 20:45, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have a problem with it. Put it back in the queue.--GoPTCN 08:18, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. Will do. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:04, 13 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (talk · contribs) 14:55, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

All images need {{personality rights}}--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:58, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done--GoPTCN 16:22, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The following issues seem to remain unresolved from GA2 by reviewer Philcha (talk · contribs)--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:07, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • "Kuznetsova's win over World No. 11 Anastasia Myskina in the second round of the Pacific Life Open in Indian Wells, California was her first over a top-10 player this year" - World No. 11, top-10 player? --Philcha (talk) 19:56, 23 June 2011 (UTC). Reiterate now.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:07, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done
  • Done
  • And "At..." or "In ..."? Please check this right through the article. A long time ago, a French teacher told me prepositions are the hardest thing to master in 2nd languages. --Philcha (talk) 19:56, 23 June 2011 (UTC) Given wimbledon example above, I reiterate this.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:07, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • I am pretty sure it is "at the doubles". Also I think you can say both "at Wimbledon" or "in Wimbledon", but I am not a native speaker...
  • Done
  • Thanks, done
WP:LEAD
  • "and never broke this record" should probably be something like, "which remains her career-high"

Note: I have been making copy edits to the beginning of the article (Lead, Early life, Career: 2000, 2001-2002 and 2003) to assist GoP in his efforts but realize that TonyTheTiger is now conducting his review. To prevent further risk of our edits & review getting their wires crossed I'll wait until the outcome of the review before making any further edits. Two final observations for GoP: there are a few deadlinks and the subsection "Playing Style" does not belong in the "Off-Court" section.--Wolbo (talk) 14:20, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If your copyedit will take less than a week or so, I would prefer if you complete it before I finish my review.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 15:00, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(2x ce) Thanks for your copyedits. I will fix these issues. Regards.--GoPTCN 15:01, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have expanded the playing style, fixed the dead links and formatted the last sections.--GoPTCN 15:58, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
TTT, I think it would probably be best if I finish my 'non-review review/copyedit' and it should not take long at all, certainly not a week. GoP, is that OK with you or do you want to proceed directly with the GA review? As you are the one who requested the GA review I'll leave the choice up to you.--Wolbo (talk) 16:03, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I am a participant at WP:CUP, so I don't want to lose in this round. If this passes I get 60 points and will probably advance.--GoPTCN 16:33, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The copyeditor was already ahead of where I am in the article. I am still working on the LEAD. Even without a copyedit, I am not sure this would pass within the next week. I have not looked at /GA3 and have only read the LEAD other than look at /GA2. Are these your only potential points?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:04, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have Otis Redding in reserve, which is a good candidate considering its history of turbulent nominations...--GoPTCN 17:29, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Try to get your points with Redding. I am not sure this one will make it.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:04, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Finalized my review and (significant) copy edit session. --Wolbo (talk) 23:41, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
2000
ITF Junior Career
  • You have never said when she appeared "In Minsk, Belarus". If I understand rankings correctly, they are dated as of the end of a specific week. I am asking you to say something like "receiving her first ranking of 889 during the week ending Month DD, YYYY", after adding the date of the tournament.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 11:21, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
2001–2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
  • The match was the longest recorded women's Grand Slam match in the Open Era, with a final scoreline of 6–4, 1–6, 16–14, and the second-longest women's match in the Open Era. - I think there is a link for longest matches and some have articles.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:13, 25 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
2012
Fed Cup
Coaches
Appearances in video games

Review of progress

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  • I count 8 weeks at number 3 (7 consecutive) not 5.
  • You are correct. Done.

The third point is not a dealbreaker.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:12, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am also not pressing for a mixed doubles record.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:27, 26 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great work. Good Luck in the WP:CUP. I am going to pass this.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:04, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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