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On the Superman Shield in the infobox

Someone else has added the shield in the infobox now. @Trailblazer101, I'm going to have to disagree with you on removing it again. Captain America: Brave New World's infobox image is a poster featuring a shield and red Hulk hands, without even the movie logo. Logos for films are routinely used to illustrate the film before posters come out. This should be no different than the way it has been done. it sounds like WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but it's the way things seem to be done. (Maybe rasterize it? My software was picking up on the dark blue shadow on the edges of the shield...) BarntToust (talk) 19:00, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I initially did not believe it was sufficient or necessary as it was just the same "logo" shown at CinemaCon. Realistically, this is not the true logo of the film that will be used as it is only the logo on Superman's suit. Once it was readded, I was not going to remove it again. I am well aware of the Captain America poster, which is an actual teaser poster whereas this Superman image is just the plain suit logo. We are also not going to alter any official images. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:10, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, yeah, I saw that you non-free reduced its size. If we all agree, it's a great thing for it. Yep, all seems good. It's a film called just Superman, so I guess the of-the-same-name logo applies here, just not the wordmark, which probably will come out in the future. Yeah, I suppose rasterizing is not a good idea. All-in-all, take care Trailblazer! BarntToust (talk) 19:14, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What is the problem here? The official logo for the film has been released and added to the infobox until we get an actual poster. Nothing out of the ordinary. - adamstom97 (talk) 19:21, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no issue with it, I was just initially unsure about it but changed my mind. Not sure why a discussion had to be made about it. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Gods and Monsters" link in header

Currently the "Gods and Monsters" link redirects to the main DCU page, which is already being linked to in the header. As such, it is irrelevant. I understand some wanting parity with MCU films which link to their respective Phases, except those pages currently exist. Until such a time that a "Chapter One" page is created and merits existing outside of the main DCU article, there is no reason to be redundant simply for the sake of desired clout. Buh6173 (talk) 18:40, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per WP:NOTBROKEN, Redirects can indicate possible future articles and Shortcuts or redirects to embedded anchors or sections of articles or of Wikipedia's advice pages should never be bypassed, as the anchors or section headings on the page may change over time. Updating one redirect is far more efficient than updating dozens of piped links. This "Chapter One: Gods and Monsters" redirect is pointing readers directly to the dedicated section for this slate of content at the DCU article, and is therefore a helpful link to include as opposed to it just linking straight to the overall DCU article again (which it does not). This is not about being similar to the MCU articles (or alleged "clout"), this is about adequately directing our readers to a relevant section of an article via the redirect method, and this type of redirect linking is allowed and is not a WP:DUPLINK. Trailblazer101 (talk) 19:02, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That still does not change that it's referred to twice, once at the top and once later on. If you must have both links, it should be phrased along the lines of "it will be the first film in the DC Universe (DCU) as a part of Chapter 1: Gods and Monsters) and a reboot of the Superman film series". Buh6173 (talk) 01:57, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We have the lead structured as is so it presents the most relevant information first, as per WP:LEAD. There is nothing wrong with having a redirect linking to a section of an article that was already linked it, so it is just an issue of preference. This link can remain. Trailblazer101 (talk) 02:46, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It does, but it's also repetitive and redundant in the way it is currently structured, that's my point. Buh6173 (talk) 04:08, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is not repetitive or redundant, the link may go to the same page but the text is providing different information each time. - adamstom97 (talk) 08:19, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It really isn't. It's two separate lines of "this is part of the DCU". How would rephrasing it in the way I suggested it make it worse? Buh6173 (talk) 17:20, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It adds unnecessary details to the opening paragraph. Not everything needs to go there, only the key things. And it is directly related to the film's release, which is appropriately discussed in the third paragraph of the lead. A change in release schedule will not impact the film's setting in the DCU, but it could impact its place in the Chapter. That is why the Phase details are mentioned after release for MCU articles, and the same principles apply here. - adamstom97 (talk) 19:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

General notice

Figured I'd ping a few people to let 'em know. bleeding cool has done a nice bit of meta-reporting, and it turns out Deadline Hollywood has decided to causally footnote a report on the Clayface film article that the trailer for Superman is coming out "early next week". Yep, that's a footnote. @Trailblazer101, @Adamstom.97, @Favre1fan93. In case all were not aware. Barnt Toust 04:44, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, I've seen this being reported by many sources in recent weeks. Puck also affirmed this in a report yesterday. It seems it will drop with a press event and be online next week to coincide with Musafa's release in theaters, so I'm sure there is going to be a lot of critical commentary and discussion about this trailer given the high anticipation of this particular film (which has been discussed in Fandango's most anticipated 2025 movies list, if that's of any relevance to the article). Trailblazer101 (talk) 04:48, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I just now saw Screen Rant report about the Puck reporting. If good ol' Puck holds true, I imagine there'll be a lot of critical commentary about the trailer starring... Krypto? Welp, that'll be interesting. Barnt Toust 05:02, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I suggest changing the cast order, as well as adding Craig Alpert as editor and James Gunn as producer, based on the film synopsis on the official website: https://www.supermanmovie.com/synopsis/ 98.5.41.204 (talk) 16:30, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gunn producer bit has indeed been changed. Not sure about cast list? Barnt Toust 17:03, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Changed listing on infobox and lede opening paragraph, but not dealing with the cast section right now. someone else can get that or I'll make time later. Barnt Toust 17:10, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done I have updated the cast order accordingly. Trailblazer101 (talk) 17:24, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]