Talk:Stanhope (carriage)
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Which Fitzroy Stanhope
[edit]It was named after Fitzroy Stanhope, a British clergyman who died in 1864.
This is obviously wrong. A clergyman wouldn't have any business in designing a gig. It was Captain Hon. Henry FitzRoy Stanhope M, #1955, b. circa 1754, d. 20 August 1828 (son of William Stanhope, 2nd Earl of Harrington), a well-known sportsman of his time. See also [1]. --WernerPopken (talk) 15:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Your link is dead, so I can't evaluate its authoritativeness, but several books I've found mention the younger Fitzroy Stanhope as having been well-known as a worldly, sporting clergyman. (They say he was nicknamed "The Dean of Tattersalls.") The OED and American Heritage Dictionary both attribute the carriage design to Rev. Stanhope. 65.213.77.129 (talk) 19:45, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
- "Hon." is a title for younger sons of Earls. Only the eldest son of landed gentry inherited the estate (land, money, home). It was common for the younger sons to become army officers, lawyers/judges, or clergymen. Those professions were considered the only respectable/acceptable professions the gentry could engage in. A "sportsman" was a man who engaged in things like hunting, racing, riding, and driving. Landed gentry, sportsman, and clergy are not incompatible. There were multiple people referred to as "Hon. Fitzroy Stanhope", the name given in all contemporary sources. According to Straus (1912)[1]: 235 and Gilbey (1905)[2]: 89 , this one was "brother of Lord Petersham", placing him as Rev. Hon. FitzRoy Henry Richard Stanhope (1787–1864), issue of Charles Stanhope, 3rd Earl of Harrington. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 07:48, 9 December 2024 (UTC)