Talk:Springsteen and E Street Band 2023–2025 Tour

Who is the E Street Band?

Given that Tyrell, Giordano, and Clemons are now in the official band photo (as opposed to other supplemental players), I think it's fair to call them part of the E Street Band unless Springsteen or some other official source says otherwise. See https://brucespringsteen.net/news/2023/ladies-and-gentlemen-the-e-street-band/. They're also listed as band members on the liner notes to Letter to You, the current album. Rhombusbaffler (talk) 18:01, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Your analysis of photographs and record covers is original research. Springsteen has always been adamant sbout who is s member of the band. We will publish any additions only when he announces such. WWGB (talk) 22:04, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

Cadillac Ranch

On which date the song "Cadillac Ranch" was performed? Michael M 1958 (talk) 17:04, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

You can check out the setlist.fm page for the 2023 tour or the Brucebase page for 2023. To answer your specific question, "Cadillac Ranch" was only performed in Austin on Feb 16, 2023 on this tour so far. Wizardimps (talk) 23:40, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

How to handle the 2024 dates?

Ticketmaster pushed my updated ticket for my postponed show to my phone this morning and then sent a further alert saying the tour's name had changed: "The name of event Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band 2023 Tour has changed to Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band 2024 Tour." After seeing that, I looked at brucespringsteen.net and I see the graphic setting out the dates for the postponed US shows (Canada to be announced next week) says "2024 Tour" above the words "Springsteen & E Street Band." The question for us is how to treat these dates for purposes of this article. Do we start a new article for the "2024 Tour" or do we treat it as a continuation of the same tour and change the article name to use "2023–24 Tour" or "2023–2024 Tour"? My inclination would be either of those latter options—as a practical matter, it's a continuation (rescheduling) of the 2023 tour, not a new and separate tour, and keeping all the dates together in the same article makes it easier for a reader to find the information and understand what happened. I have no doubt, however, given the pedantic tendencies many people on Wikipedia exhibit surrounding the word "official," that some people would say that the graphic's use of the year "2024" would require a separate article. Hence why I thought I'd raise the question here before I devote any time to adding the rescheduled tour dates to the table. 1995hoo (talk) 16:38, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

I favour renaming to Springsteen and E Street Band 2023–2024 Tour, which is consistent with Bruce Springsteen 1992–1993 World Tour. WWGB (talk) 01:26, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Regarding List of Songs Performed

Hello all, I thought I'd come here and suggest that we reinstate the list of songs performed. From what I've seen on other Bruce Springsteen tour Wiki pages, there is usually a list of songs (and what albums they come from, or which are covers, etc.), and I know this has been done on at least one other Wikipedia tour page that I can think of (The Beach Boys' 50th Anniversary World Tour from 2012). If we reformatted the old two paragraphs, it might be helpful information to return to the article. Thanks!! EPBeatles (talk) 22:29, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Part of the problem was that it was completely unsourced. If it were sourced, and if it were formatted in a different manner than a paragraph containing an ever-lengthening list, I might see the value, although I also think that sort of information tends to be better-suited to fan sites where everyone revels in hearing that he played something for the first time since 1975 or the like. 1995hoo (talk) 22:45, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

I have to agree with 1995hoo. All material needs to be supported by a published reliable source. If there is no source found for it, then it should not be included. HorrorLover555 (talk) 14:24, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

HorrorLover555....I reposted all of the songs, very detailed with the albums just like on some other Springsteen and tour wiki pages. You still removed it. In your edit you said "Sources are from fan sites, and are not reliable". I added two sources, the main one being Springsteen's official website that lists all of his setlists and you claimed it was a fan source. JasonH1978 (talk) 14:45, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Please take note that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Just because he performed those songs and the set lists are on his website does not equal inclusion, regardless if it is verifiable. HorrorLover555 (talk) 15:10, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

Why is the correct box Office figures not there ?

The box Office figures are from June 2023 and of 142 million USD. Before the American leg of 2024 Springsteen had earned 629,4 million USD up till the beginning of August 2024. 379,4 million USD for 66 concerts in 2023 and 250 million for 33 concerts in 2024. Yes he charged a lot more for a ticket in 2024 ( and merchandize and for the first time in history Speingsteen let sponsorship into the stadiums. 8 companies paid Springsteen to do commercial in Stockholm 2024 while there where 5 or 6 gigantic merchandize boots instead of 1 the year before. Springsteen peobably made a lot more money from 2 concerts in Seden in 2024 than 3 concerts in 2023. But rightly so, the concerts in Sweden 2024 were a lot better than the concerts in Sweden 2023. It was like night and day. A very very inspirered Springsteen did the best show of the while tour 15 th of July 2024 the concert the 18 th of July 2024 was just a little bit below the standard of the incredible concert the 15 th of July 2024 where Springsteen Screamed Stockholm 50 or 60 times, I have never out of all Springsteen concerts seen him use his voice like that and I rank the concert as the second best Done on Swedish ground. The best was the legendary 3 rd of July 1988 which was broadcasted on radio all around the world on 500 radio channels. Well the 2 nd of July 1988 was just as good with the wildest Cadillac Ranch I have ever heard and the only name checking on Cadillac ranch of the whole tour ” Driving along in the Stockholm night ”, all other times he sang Wisconsin night during The Tunnel of Love Express Tour ). So the gross with 15 concerts to go in 2024 was 629,4 million USD and that would make it about 743 million USD Gross revenue after the last concert in 2024 since he charged 7,58 million USD a concert in general ( compared to 5,75 million USD in 2023 ) he had earned 1,83 million USD more in 2024 than in 2023. By June 2024 Bruce passed Paul McCartney as the tickets musician in the world with 1,6 billion USD. The years 1987 to 1989 he was the biggest earning eantartainer in the world, earning 56 million USD in 1987, 61 million USD in 1988 and 40 million USD in 1989. A total of 157 million sussad between 1987 to 1989. No 2 was Michael Jackson that earned 95 million USD between 1987 and 1989. Since he did nothing in 1989 except releasing the 78-88 live Whs its safe to say that a lot of those 40 million USD came from the incredibly High earning 1988 tour where he earned only in ticket sales for 5 months of touring and 67 concerts more than 50 million USD as opposed to the very expensive 1984 to 1985 tour where he took losses in Japan, Australia and some parts of Europe where he played 16 months for 156 concerts and only earned 85 million USD.In total he earned more than 300 000 USD more per concert in 1988 than in 1984-1985 and thats excluding the 95 % sold ticket guarantee he had in 1988 vs the 55 % guarantee of tickets dold he had in 1984-1985, so the total was a 600 000 USD more a concert in 1988 than in 1985. Its also excluding the merchandize that were double as expensive relating the 3 merchandize items he had in 1984-1985. In 1988 he had a total of 15 merchandize items some extremely expensive. The tour of 1988 was incredibly much more Successful financially. He only played US and Europé and did not take the extreme losses in Japan Australia and some places in Europé. It costs a lot to fligh 100 people to Japan and Australia and then only play in front of 5000 people in Hapan for 8 concerts in different cities was a big loss. 5 concerts in front of 9000 people in Sydney was also a big loss. The first stadium concert in Springsteens career in front of 45 000 people in Brisbane did good but 2 concerts in front of 25 000 people each in Melbourne was about no loss no gain. The concerts in Europé got of badly in Southfrn France and in Munich and could have been played for more people in Newcastle ( or the could have changed city as the stadium was too small ). In Southern France Bruce played in front of 20 000 in Nice in a 45 000 capacity stadium. In Montpellier Bruce played in front of 25 000 people in a 50 000 capacity stadium, in Munich Bruce played in front of 37 000 people in a 72 000 capacity stadium. In Newcastle Bruce played in front of 35 000 people for 2 concerts. And in Rotterdam 2 concerts in front of 45 000 people in a 50 000 capacity stadium. In Paris he did 2 concerts in front of 60 000 people. He played in front of 65 000 people in Milan. The biggest concert was in Leeds in front of 80 000 people. In 1988 Bruce made a lot of changes to optimize money earned. He had a guarantee fee of a at that time a world record 95 % of sold tickets. In 1984-1985 it was 55 % of ticket sales. He did not play Japan nor Australia. He only played Paris in France in front of 80 000 people at the Hippodrome Vincennes. The 2 southern France fiasco concerts were moved to Spain where they were the fasters selling tickets of all time. 90 000 tickets were sold to the biggest football stadium in Europé Camp Nou in Barcelona and 65 000 tickets to The Concert in Madrid at the Vicente Calderone stadium. Nothing immidiate sellouts. He set a new record for concerts at Wembley Stadium with 80 000 in attendance. The New Castle concerts of 1985 with 35 000 people were moved to a bigger stadium in Sheffield where he played 2X 44 000 people. In Torino there was to be 2 concerts of 60 000 people each but there was a paper strike and only the first concert had sold out. When the strike was over the Italians could have easily bought tickets to a second concert but because of Bruces gigantic fee the promoter got cold feets. But instead of 60 000 people he pushed 66 000 people into the Stadium. The Rotterdam concerts were now selloiuts 2 x 50 000 people. He sat a new record for concerts in St Jacob Stadium with 56 000 people. The biggest concert was the legendary East Berlin concert with 500 000 people in attendance. 165 000 tickets were sold but the interest were so High another 335 000 people gate crashed the big field and promotors took down Fences to get everybody inside. Tickets were 20 East Berlin Marks, those 165 000 tickets were sold out in 1 hour prompting 335 000 people to gate crash the site. Police estomated the crowd at 500 000 people. The other of a total of 24 stadium concerts were between 50 000 to 70 000 people in compararation to a 35 000 average in 1985 for the European concerts. All 67 concerts were immidiate sellouts and tickets were 7 USD more expensive in 1988 than in 1985. Merchandize were double as expensive in 1988 as in 1985. In 1985 there were 3 merchandize items, in 1988 there were 15 merchandize items that were really expensive. In August 1988 Bruce were 5 times richer than in October 1985. 213.89.228.75 (talk) 12:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

 Not done Please provide reliable sources that support the changes you want to be made. HorrorLover555 (talk) 21:46, 11 December 2024 (UTC)