Talk:Spaghetti all'assassina

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Verifiability of this dish’s existence before 2021

I’m having a very hard time finding any sourcing about this dish’s existence before 2021. There seem to be a lot of stories floating around, but nothing verifiable. As with lots of Italian cooking, there’s obvious internal and external division over the authenticity of many dishes, but it seems like for some reason the literature is silent on this. Searching “Spaghetti all'Assassina” and “spaghetti all’Assassino” in my university library is drawing no hits. Paragon Deku (talk) 00:09, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I fond this from 2014

https://www.pugliamonamour.it/en/2014/02/21/spaghetti-allassassina-2/

Also this from 2019

https://www.pantaleo.it/en/lets-cook-together/entrees/1680/spaghetti-allassassina-killer-spaghetti.php Dinopt (talk) 18:18, 28 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Paragon Deku: the sentence "As with lots of Italian cooking, there’s obvious internal and external division over the authenticity of many dishes" is very uninformative, since this is the case for all countries in the world (for example, tomatoes come from the Americas; obviously long before the existence of the United States). Simply, we Italians have worked, work and will work hard to preserve all our culinary traditions in their original form. JacktheBrown (talk) 23:51, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Paragon Deku: in reply to your entire comment: of course, if you search in English you will find almost nothing about this dish, but this isn't a valid reason to say that spaghetti all'assassina doesn't exist (and it's also quite disrespectful to claim that). English isn't the only language in the world and, frankly, there are many traditional Italian dishes (e.g., typical of a single city) missing from your university libraries. Here is a source: [1]; obviously there are many others in Italian. Have a good day. JacktheBrown (talk) 00:08, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IPA-it

"Spaghetti all'assassina is similar in preparation to pasta risottata (Italian: [ˈpasta rizotˈtaːta])"; we absolutely don't pronounce it like this, not with "z"; I hope that other pronunciations don't have similar errors, otherwise I will have to eliminate many of them. JacktheBrown (talk) 14:19, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See the last bulleted "note" at Italian phonology#Consonants. I think /z/ is acceptable for intervocalic s in IPA transcriptions of Italian words. Deor (talk) 14:35, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Deor: all right. JacktheBrown (talk) 14:37, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]