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User:idiot1729 instead of reverting edits, it would be better to discuss it here. The list above is quite clear India is the sixth to achieve docking, not the fourth, regardless of the tweets made by ISRO. And the sources you have provided all ultimately derive from ISRO. 2A01:E0A:3B3:4E70:69B1:85B:5B3F:93F4 (talk) 12:11, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
User:idiot1729, User:Garudam, please can we discuss here, instead of reverting and trying to get me banned?
As it is written the article and claim is clearly wrong. Six countries have docked in space, not four and this can very easily be shown (as in the list above). I do not know why ISRO is claiming this, but the news articles are all deriving from that without any apparent fact checking. 2A01:E0A:3B3:4E70:69B1:85B:5B3F:93F4 (talk) 14:06, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would propose to remove the part about being the fourth nation, and simply list that this means India has demonstrated in-space docking technology alongside the US, the USSR, China, Europe and Japan.
Japan has not independently achieved space docking with its own spacecraft. However, Japan has contributed significantly to space missions through its H-II Transfer Vehicle (HTV), also known as Kounotori, which has successfully delivered cargo to the International Space Station (ISS). The HTV is captured by the ISS's robotic arm and berthed, rather than performing an autonomous docking maneuver.
While this is an impressive achievement, it is technically different from independent space docking.
The ESA has achieved Space Docking in the past, but it is an International Organisation and thus, India is effectively the 4th country to achieve independent succesful space docking, while ISRO is the 5th space agency to do so. Idiot1729 (talk) 14:32, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For Japan there is ETS-VII (which is also referenced in the SpaDeX article!) which consisted of two Japanese spacecraft which carried out rendezvous and docking operations. See here, for example: https://global.jaxa.jp/projects/sat/ets7/
Furthermore, there have been no objections or corrections from the JAXA or any other Japanese News Agency or Organisation. I'm sure it's impossible that this might have been overlooked by JAXA, ISRO or even the Indian Government, who has never made false claims in the past. Idiot1729 (talk) 14:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Its clear from here that Japan carried out the docking exercise since the paper mentions three docking manoeuvres between the two spacecraft, all of which executed successfully.
You don't seem to understand. These putative outlets [1][2][3][4] are consistent with the fact that India is the fourth country to ever achieve this feat. Now, could you provide a source contradicting the underlined part? Best, GarudaTalk!20:43, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, what a pathetic discussion this is. Really shows how fragile the Indian ego is... do you know a Britisher company managed to do this before you? Maybe you can be a bit less prideful sir. 185.40.61.47 (talk) 09:53, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
With due respect, I would like to advise you to use more considerate language. Referring to India as "poor" and "sad" and describing the "fragile Indian ego" comes across as derogatory.
It is not our intention to disregard the achievements of other space agencies while emphasizing our own successes. Instead, we aim to seek clarifications and foster constructive discussions. What you may perceive as "pathetic" conversations are, in fact, integral to the purpose of the Wikipedia Talk Page, where dialogue and mutual understanding are encouraged.
And yes, your remarks about Garuda, violate the Wikipedia policies about Personal Attacks.
However, ISRO's claims cannot be stated incorrect and many international News articles and ISRO themselves have largely publicised the fact about India being the fourth country, so it is important to also make our readers aware of that. Idiot1729 (talk) 14:34, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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