Talk:Southpaw stance

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Marvin Hagler

Hagler's article escribes him as a "natural southpaw" but this page calls him a "skilled right-hander" who switched to southpaw. I think Marivin WAS a natural southpaw who occasionally switched to orthodox for tactical reasons but I don't have a good source for that yet. Tigerboy1966 11:57, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Strategy Section

The entire section is unreferenced, and after I did some digging looking for citations, I find that it may be altogether false. A Google Scholar search for "boxing southpaw" has some results, and of the first^[1] three^[2] results^[3], only the first finds an impact of boxing stance at the amateur level, and the other two find no impact at all. Therefore, I propose to delete that section and add to the end of the lede the following prose:

While many advantages have been theorized for left-handedness in sports^[1], many studies have found no impact at the professional level.^[2]^[3]

If someone who knows more about this topic than me can do a deep dive, that'd be welcome. Similarly, if there are any news or academic sources which detail the perceived benefits of the southpaw stance, we might be able to rework the strategy section in terms of belief instead of stating unsubstantiated claims in wikivoice. EducatedRedneck (talk) 00:53, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've heard no objections, so have implemented the proposed change. EducatedRedneck (talk) 13:47, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b Sorokowski, Piotr, Agnieszka Sabiniewicz, and Sławomir Wacewicz. "The influence of the boxing stance on performance in professional boxers." AnthropologicAl review 77.3 (2014): 347-353.
^ ^a ^b SOPIARZ, JOSH. "Fighters and Fathers: Managing Masculinity in Contemporary Boxing Cinema." THE POPULAR CULTURE STUDIES JOURNAL (2019): 257.
^ ^a ^b Baker, Joseph, and Jörg Schorer. "The Southpaw advantage?-lateral preference in mixed martial arts." PloS one 8.11 (2013): e79793.

Rocky Balboa and Movies

An IP has repeatedly added Rocky Balboa to the list of fighters, which I reverted as a fictional character is not a real fighter. They have now added a new section "Movies", with only Rocky Balboa as the entire contents. I added an expand section tag, but if it's not expanded in the next month or two, I plan to remove it. Either way, I'm not convinced it's of any encyclopedic value. What do others think? Is it worth having if we can populate it, or should it be removed regardless of other examples? EducatedRedneck (talk) 16:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[sorokowski2014-1] Sorokowski, Piotr, Agnieszka Sabiniewicz, and Sławomir Wacewicz. "The influence of the boxing stance on performance in professional boxers." AnthropologicAl review 77.3 (2014): 347-353.

[sopiarz2019-2] SOPIARZ, JOSH. "Fighters and Fathers: Managing Masculinity in Contemporary Boxing Cinema." THE POPULAR CULTURE STUDIES JOURNAL (2019): 257.

[baker2013-3] Baker, Joseph, and Jörg Schorer. "The Southpaw advantage?-lateral preference in mixed martial arts." PloS one 8.11 (2013): e79793.

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