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Pronunciation

As Goetia is a word of Greek origin, I'd imagine its original pronunciation to have been goi'tia, and hence its pronunciation in Modern English to be gee'sha. Still, a guide would be helpful -- anything to prevent the ignorant from saying goat-ia (as if it had something to do with goats!) Nuttyskin (talk) 17:37, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I find this: "The correct pronunciation of goetia is goh-eh-tee-ah. Pronunciation of Latin words, especially those taken from Greek that weren't used by the Roman, are difficult to trace, and this is the case with goetia. As a consequence, many people pronounce goetia as go-eh-sha, but this is probably a pronunciation based on how the sequence "tia" is usually pronounced in English. The pronunciation of the "tia" sequence in Classical Latin is tee-ahm, for example in the word etiam, which is pronounced eh-tee-ahm." Skyerise (talk) 17:42, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Citations are needed for such claims. --Omnipaedista (talk) 21:39, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then place a citation needed tag. Skyerise (talk) 00:40, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Repetitive

Most of the text in the “history of grimoires” section is just rephrased from the intro and expanded a little. Maybe it would be better to cut the stuff from the intro and just save it all for “history of grimoires”? WiseAdam (talk) 14:33, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, because its needed for context here. Summarizing a portion of another article's relevant content for context is not unusual. See WP:SUMMARYSTYLE. Skyerise (talk) 00:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Question about script

Greeting! I've read this wonderful article and decided to translate it in Ukrainian so more people can read about it. However I've stumbled upon a problem with references to the source, because every citation says "Script error: Function "harvard_core" does not exist."

Can someone please tell me about this script and how can I implement it in Ukrainian Wikipedia so the citations are properly displayed?

Thanks in advance! Taxfrest (talk) 11:00, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Taxfrest: here might be a place to start Template:Citation/core and/or Module:Citation/CS1. I've never really looked too deeply into how the citation templates are supported... Skyerise (talk) 11:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]