Talk:Social development

Social development

For now, social development redirects here to social progress, as this term is sometimes used to mean social progress. However I think that 'social dev.' may have a different meaning as well - i.e. the development of individuals, not societies. However I was unable to find a clear definition of any of 'soc. dev.', so until sb finds it and corrects it, I think the current redirect is a better solution then red link. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 13:35, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Anyway, I discoverd that social development is not necesarilly positive, and is divided into social progress and social regress. Changed the articles accordingly. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 17:09, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

I've added a bibliographical reference from J. B. Bury, who seems to me the best authority on the subject. It seems to me on reflection, that this article could be productively merged with Philosophical Progress and Progress (History) and even the Myth of Progress (other entries on wikipedia). I agree with Piotr that there is progress and there is regress -- the "myth" is that either one is inevitable (or alternatively that history moves necessarily in either a unitary direction or in cycles -- both beliefs having long histories).Mballen (talk) 04:07, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

History of this ambiguous term

• at 13:25, 26 June 2005‎ Piotrus redirected to Social progress
  • at 12:40, 10 July 2018 Frayae moved page Social progress to Progress (Requested move.)
• at 17:07, 21 July 2005 Piotrus created a stub: Social development is a type of a social process which constantly changes some parameters of the society. When this is beneficial for this society, it is called social progress, if not, social regress.
• at 18:32, 30 July 2005 Beland redirected to Sociocultural evolution
• at 11:30, 5 August 2005 Piotrus reverted to their stub and made Sociocultural evolution a "see also" link
• at 12:55, 1 November 2006 TheBusiness proposes merging into Social change without explaining their rationale or starting a discussion. There is no consensus for this.
• at 06:59, 23 January 2010 Pfhorrest proposes merging into Social progress. This discussion finds merging Social progress into Progress to be problematic, but:
  • at 12:40, 10 July 2018 Frayae moved page Social progress to Progress (Requested move.)
• the stub evolves to become this 08:36, 3 August 2010 article.
• at 02:52, 4 August 2010 Tomsega redirected to Social change ("We do not need yet another wishy washy half-sociological term explained poorly. Merging")
• at 09:05, 7 March 2020 Piotrus disambiguates. — wbm1058 (talk) 18:07, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Greetings! Was there a proposal of some sort related to this historical summary? Beland (talk) 22:52, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

I am happy to see people interested in this. I still think this may warrant a stand-alone article, but my old stub was not referenced and neither was the 2010 version. I do see some refs on Polish Wiki pl:Rozwój społeczny. But English references would be preferable. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:43, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

The issue is that there is a tag on top of the page "This disambiguation page is currently linked from a large number of articles. Please help direct these ambiguous links to articles dealing with the specific meaning intended."

37 articles still link to here. Disambiguating these may not be that easy.

I'm here due to my patrolling of Category:Articles with redirect hatnotes needing review. Social change landed there because Social development doesn't redirect to there any more. I was trying to figure out what to do about this situation. Thinking a "broad-concept article" may be apppropriate, or at least a more intelligible disambiguation. – wbm1058 (talk) 15:01, 8 May 2020 (UTC)