Talk:Shvut Rachel
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[edit]Number 57, I was wondering, why did you remove the fact that shvut rachel is a religious village from the catagories? Leppi 10:29, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
- The category is Religious Villages in Israel; Shvut Rachel is a settlement and therefore not in Israel (it is actually in the Palestinian territories). This issue was discussed on the WikiProject Israel page. Number 57 14:24, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
- Shvut Rahel is in fact not in the Palestinian Territories, unless 57 is referring to all British mandate territory as Palestine. Or rather, if 57 has information that Svhut Rahel was built illegally on private Arab land, I would be glad if that was published to back up these claims. But the same way that 57 claims that settlements are in Palestine, they can also equally be considered in Israel since the 'land of Israel' includes a lot more territory than the current state borders. The 'proof' that settlement can't be part of Israel is a warped use of the word settlement. There are in fact many Israeli settlements in the borders of the State of Israel. --Shuki 23:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
- Shvut Rachel is in the West Bank. The West Bank is part of the Palestinian territories. Only from the right-wing Israeli POV are only the PNA/Hamas-controlled areas part of the territories. Number 57 08:02, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yawn, ok, you are right, and it is pure POV that the 'Palestinian Territories' are only part of the Land of Israel. This is the wrong place to discuss the issue what is part of the P. territories and not. But out of curioustiy 57, is the WB and Gaza the only P. territories or are there morewe should know about? --Shuki 21:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
- Well, unless you happen to be one of the people who exclude East Jerusalem from the West Bank, then no. Number 57 13:49, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yawn, ok, you are right, and it is pure POV that the 'Palestinian Territories' are only part of the Land of Israel. This is the wrong place to discuss the issue what is part of the P. territories and not. But out of curioustiy 57, is the WB and Gaza the only P. territories or are there morewe should know about? --Shuki 21:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
- Shvut Rachel is in the West Bank. The West Bank is part of the Palestinian territories. Only from the right-wing Israeli POV are only the PNA/Hamas-controlled areas part of the territories. Number 57 08:02, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
- Shvut Rahel is in fact not in the Palestinian Territories, unless 57 is referring to all British mandate territory as Palestine. Or rather, if 57 has information that Svhut Rahel was built illegally on private Arab land, I would be glad if that was published to back up these claims. But the same way that 57 claims that settlements are in Palestine, they can also equally be considered in Israel since the 'land of Israel' includes a lot more territory than the current state borders. The 'proof' that settlement can't be part of Israel is a warped use of the word settlement. There are in fact many Israeli settlements in the borders of the State of Israel. --Shuki 23:00, 26 July 2007 (UTC)