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(The first sentence in the third paragraph should state…) “Though sex and gender have been used interchangeably at least as early as the fourteenth century, this usage was not common by the late 1900s.” (*1800s is a typo-please fix) (John Money began his social science in the mid 1990’s. The conceptualization of the word Gender did not change until the late 1900s, NOT the late 1800s) 184.97.75.129 (talk) 14:00, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Jonathan Deamer (talk) 18:02, 23 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested edit under “Biologists”

Gorelick et al, in the Biological Journal of the Linnaean Society, find no universal differences between males and females: https://academic.oup.com/biolinnean/article/120/1/1/2864987

This would appear to undermine the cited claim from Majerus that gamete size is the only universal difference. 2A00:23C6:8A05:B001:A845:2054:6D3E:A2BA (talk) 13:44, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

About the lead

I cannot read the reference #11 (Plaudi, 2008) so I don't know how did the author prove that "Most ... biologists ... make a distinction between gender and sex." Actually there are a great number of famous modern biologists that use sex and gender interchangeably. (I know that there is no universal criterion for "famous", so I will try to find some "notable" people who have their articles on Wikipedia.):

Ann Sakai wrote that "Throughout this book, we use gender to describe the functional sex expression of the plant (or flower)"^[1].
Luis M. Chiappe, Anusuya Chinsamy-Turan and their colleagues used the word gender on a fossil bird species.^[2]
Allan Armitage wrote that "If you are buying two (individuals of Celastrus), make sure the containers are labelled as to gender" and "the gender will not be known until the flowering."^[3]
Randall James Bayer wrote that "Obviously, because of limited data, little can be said about the inheritance of gender or breeding systen in Antennaria."^[4]
Paul Alan Cox use the word gender to describe gametophytes of algae.^[5]

And there are much more uses if we do not require the authors to be notable.——🦝 The Interaccoonale ^{Will be the raccoon race}_{(talk・contribs)} 12:46, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Sakai, A. K.; Weller, S. G. (1999). "Gender and sexual dimorphism in flowering plants: a review of terminology, biogeographic patterns, ecological correlates, and phylogenetic approaches". Gender and sexual dimorphism in flowering plants: 1–31.
^ Chinsamy, A.; Chiappe, L. M.; Marugán-Lobón, J.; Gao, C。; Zhang, F. (2013). "Gender identification of the Mesozoic bird Confuciusornis sanctus". Nature Communications. 4 (1): 1381. doi:10.1038/ncomms2377.
^ Armitage, A. M. (2011). Armitage's Vines and Climbers: A Gardener's Guide to the Best Vertical Plants. Timber Press. p. 56.
^ Bayer, R. J. (1984). Evolutionary Investigations in *Antennaria* Gaertner (Asteraceae: Inuleae) (Agamic Complex, Electrophoresis) (PhD thesis). The Ohio State University. p. 56.
^ Togashi, T.; Cox, P. A. (2001). "Tidal-linked synchrony of gamete release in the marine green alga, *Monostroma angicava* Kjellman". Journal of Experimental Marine Biology and Ecology. 264 (2): 117–131. doi:10.1016/S0022-0981(01)00314-5.

[1] Sakai, A. K.; Weller, S. G. (1999). "Gender and sexual dimorphism in flowering plants: a review of terminology, biogeographic patterns, ecological correlates, and phylogenetic approaches". Gender and sexual dimorphism in flowering plants: 1–31.

[2] Chinsamy, A.; Chiappe, L. M.; Marugán-Lobón, J.; Gao, C。; Zhang, F. (2013). "Gender identification of the Mesozoic bird Confuciusornis sanctus". Nature Communications. 4 (1): 1381. doi:10.1038/ncomms2377.

[3] Armitage, A. M. (2011). Armitage's Vines and Climbers: A Gardener's Guide to the Best Vertical Plants. Timber Press. p. 56.

[4] Bayer, R. J. (1984). Evolutionary Investigations in *Antennaria* Gaertner (Asteraceae: Inuleae) (Agamic Complex, Electrophoresis) (PhD thesis). The Ohio State University. p. 56.

[5] Togashi, T.; Cox, P. A. (2001). "Tidal-linked synchrony of gamete release in the marine green alga, *Monostroma angicava* Kjellman". Journal of Experimental Marine Biology and Ecology. 264 (2): 117–131. doi:10.1016/S0022-0981(01)00314-5.

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