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Factual errors and omissions

This article contains numerous factual errors and omissions. Citations are frequently incomplete and may refer to outdated or self-published sources including blog posts.

Most members of the Sicard family were not Loyalists during the Revolutionary War. Only three brothers (Peter, James, and John), their five older sons, and two nephews appear to have actively supported the British cause. Of these ten, only seven joined Butler's Rangers. James (Jacques) Secord was a Lieutenant in the British Indian Department. Daniel Secord (1756–c. 1818) joined Brant's Volunteers, while his brother John (1762–c. 1813) joined the New York Volunteers.

Several other members of the extended family emigrated to Upper Canada after the war, not necessarily because they were Loyalist but because land was cheap.

Peter, James and John left their farms on the Susquehanna River accompanied by their older sons in the spring of 1777 and travelled to Fort Niagara where they joined the British Indian Department. It wasn't until September 1777 that John Butler received permission to form the provincial regiment known as Butler's Rangers. Their wives and younger children arrived at Fort Niagara as refugees the following year.

John and Peter were discharged from Butler's Rangers in October 1778 due to their age. James retired from the Indian Department sometime in 1779. In the summer of 1780, James, Peter and John, and John's son John were part of the first group to start farming on the west side of the Niagara River in what now Ontario. Silas, Solomon, Steven, and David Secord remained with Butler's Rangers until the end of the war.

There is no evidence that any of the Secords were "wanted" by the Americans after the Battle of Wyoming or the Cherry Valley Peter, James and John and their children all settled in Niagara Township not Louth Township. Daniel settled in what is now Brant County and was later joined by his brother John who had lived for a few years in New Brunswick.

James Secord, son of James, never served in Butler's Rangers because he was born in 1773. He married Laura Ingersoll, daughter of Thomas Ingersoll. Many biographies of Laura have been published and frequently contain more or less accuarate information about her husband's ancestry.

The mixed use of English names or their French equivalents can be confusing. James is Jacques. Peter is Pierre. Stephen is Etienne. Some confused family historians have been known to record the names as separate people.

Missing from the article is any references to the work of the late military historian William A. Smy, especially his thoroughly researched Annotated Nominal Roll of Butler's Rangers published in 2004.^[1]

Revisions are forthcoming. Griffin's Sword (talk) 23:11, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

William Secord and his brother Elias have also been identified as Loyalists. They crossed British lines into New York in 1777 and settled in New Brunswick in 1783. Griffin's Sword (talk) 15:55, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article has been updated. Factual errors have been corrected using reliable sources. Griffin's Sword (talk) 20:24, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

^ Smy, William (2004) An Annotated Nominal Roll of Butler's Rangers 1777-1784. Welland, Ontario: Friends of the Loyalist Collection at Brock University

[1] Smy, William (2004) An Annotated Nominal Roll of Butler's Rangers 1777-1784. Welland, Ontario: Friends of the Loyalist Collection at Brock University

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