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David Rohl's views on where Noah's ark might have landed

I think that the 20thC section of the article would benefit from a reference to British archaeologist David Rohl's view on where Noah's ark, whether real or mythical, might have landed. He devotes 7 pages of his book 'Legend (The Genesis of Civilisation)' to the issue (pages 146 to 152). I consider it important to record his view that Mount Ararat is a relatively 'modern' misidentification. In addition, Rohl is a professional archaeologist - in contrast to many others whose views are reported in the article. The final sentence of his conclusion on page 152 of his book is: "The peak of Judi Dagh, bordering upon the Mesopotamian lowlands in the region later known as Assyria is, in fact the original traditional site of the ark's landing as stated by numerous early authorities." This seems to me to be an entirely unobjectionable statement. (P.S. I am not an American evangelistic fundamentalist!) Abutlwer (talk) 21:01, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. In its current form, the view cannot remain in the article. The wording lacks NPOV. What evidence was presented and according to whom his argument is "convincing"? As another editor pointed out, you need a reliable and independent secondary source so that there can be an objective analysis of this view, if there are any out there. StephenMacky1 (talk) 21:27, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So what do you suggest? Rohl's book is not a 'popular' work. If I send you a PDF of the pages, will you be able to read them and suggest a suitable draft? Many thanks. Note that I have omitted 'convincing' from the talk above! Abutlwer (talk) 22:03, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We need sources discussing his work, not his own statements. If there aren't any then we don't mention Rohl. See WP:Fringe Doug Weller talk 09:45, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've read them. It was all pretty speculative. Sorry, but without a secondary source, there is nothing that can be done here. StephenMacky1 (talk) 10:19, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Abutlwer He is not a professional archaeologist at all, he only has a BA in Ancient History and Egyptology. And as I said in my edit summary, he is fringe. Noah is a myth, there was no Ark. Doug Weller talk 21:55, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

And the secondary source for your authorative statements are ...? 92.3.95.222 (talk) 22:06, 15 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You really should be using your account you know. It's cowardly to logout to comment. Or are you blocked? Rohl's claim to have the BA is probably correct, lying about it wouldn't work. You need to read Noah and Noah's Ark for the sources, I'm not doing your research for you. Doug Weller talk 09:49, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We do not have an article on David Rohl, but we have one on his New Chronology. His views are not accepted by mainstream Egyptology. Dimadick (talk) 11:42, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]