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Alternate versions of Scarlet Witch was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 26 October 2020 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Scarlet Witch. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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Proposed merge of Wanda Maximoff (Marvel Cinematic Universe) into Scarlet Witch

The article contains a of in-universe details. There's no reason two separate articles should exist. Coderzombie (talk) 06:58, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: Be that as it may, the topics are independently notable per WP:GNG. Whatever problems exist because of in-universe details can be solved through normal editing.—-TriiipleThreat (talk) 09:09, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. This is one of an extensive series of articles – Tony Stark (Marvel Cinematic Universe), Natasha Romanoff (Marvel Cinematic Universe), Loki (Marvel Cinematic Universe) – for which merging one out would break the series. There is already an established consensus in several discussions for keeping these as freestanding articles. This character, although based on the comic book, is fundamentally different in numerous ways, and there are substantial details about casting, film development, the actor's approach to the character, award nominations, and even costuming that are of no relevance to the comic book character. Of note, this character is already scheduled to appear in an MCU television series (as well as at least one additional film), which will greatly expand the content to be written about the character. BD2412 T 15:17, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
agree : I think these artcles Tony Stark (Marvel Cinematic Universe), Natasha Romanoff (Marvel Cinematic Universe), Loki (Marvel Cinematic Universe) should be merged with their own characters. There are plenty of MCU characters who have different stories with comics, but we don't make every MCU characters into articles. And we don't have to make articles, because MCU is part of Marvel Universe and Marvel Universe is multiverse. We should consider about this characteristic. -- 03:04, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- Consensus in favor of these articles has already been settled in discussions with substantially more participation than this one. BD2412 T 03:12, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose:: She seems to fit the criteria of notability of a separate topic. Jhenderson⁷⁷⁷ 17:59, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Under "Publication History", and its "All-New All-Different Marvel" section, change [volume & issue needed] to a new footnote 109 with this citation: Scarlet Witch vol. 2 #15. Marvel Comics. Erkeose (talk) 19:10, 27 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. J850NK (talk) 21:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reality warping

I don't know who's in charge of this page, but it's wrong.

Comic writers are making it the expected norm that Wanda is a reality warper by her own power now, to match up with her portrayal in the MCU.

Hence why I updated her reality warping section with information that was true from recent 2020, 2021 and 2023 comics.

In the trial of magneto comic, she is literally described as a sorceress who controls all of reality.

That is literally stated in the comic.... it doesn't get much clearer than that.

She literally resurrected herself from death, and that's a fact because Hope, who is a member of the five, was preparing her body for resurrection by using the krakoan resurrection protocols. BUT they don't get a chance to do that because Wanda resurrected herself and hope actually states in the comic while it's happening, that Wanda is resurrecting herself and the five are shocked when she does.

It's literally stated by hope.

I dont know how much clearer you need it to be.

Wanda is a reality warper, and no it hasn't been explained. But that's the facts of what authors are trying to make the norm now because of the mcu.

In trial of magneto, she also rewrites reality by casting a spell to create a pocket dimension, so mutants have an afterlife waiting room.

And in the comic, star, volume 1 part 2, she literally comes to help Ripley Ryan control her reality powers and tells her that she's messing with wandas own reality warping powers, which is why she's come to help her.

Again, I don't know how much clearer that needs to be.

And in her ongoing 2023 series.... Wanda literally materializes an entire building on the streets of New York, by waving her hands, complete with an enchanted door that appears to people around the world that need her help.

She literally warped an entire building into existence.

So I don't know who's in charge of this page, but I added all of this information to the page WITH comic titles and authors names... and it just gets deleted?

The page here is wrong and needs updating. 2A04:4A43:50FF:F807:D02C:D8D3:F07:870B (talk) 14:49, 24 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Splitting proposal

I propose splitting the 'Cultural impact and legacy' and 'Literary reception' sections into a separate page titled 'Draft:Cultural impact of Scarlet Witch.' According to WP:TOOBIG, an article should ideally be under 8,000 words, and the current article is approximately 15,000 words based on the Tool count. Additionally, the 'Fictional character biography' and the lead section should be trimmed, as it is overly detailed. Lililolol (talk) 00:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I created a draft for the 'Reception' section, but it needs to be revised and updated to ensure it meets MOS. Lililolol (talk) 21:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose the bulk of the prose issues lie in the overly worded plot information. The Reception is of a standard size for an article and nowhere near unwieldy. I'd suggest trimming down on in-universe content to make it more concise and less unwieldy before making any splits. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:05, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed your proposal now. I will create a new article similar to this one, but focused on the Scarlet Witch.

As for the "Reception" section, I plan to (re)work on it at some point since I previously included lengthy quotes instead of rewriting and summarizing what critics said about the character. Higher Further Faster (talk) 20:20, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Akisparo (talk) 23:47, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Pokelego. There are alternative methods that ought to be considered when an article is becoming overly long. I would encourage starting by copyediting the article at the points of contention rather than trying to split it out, as trimming is always a feasible method to retain the most relevant information together in a singular article. I also do not think the Scarlet Witch is a character who necessarily needs a separate article dedicated to perceived "cultural impact", which is just five paragraphs only for critical responses and another sub-para about her feminist interpretation. This shouldn't even be labeled "cultural impact" with a single sub-header, it should only be for the responses and there technically should not be a single sub-header either. Trailblazer101 (talk) 03:27, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per Pokelego999. This article needs to be seriously trimmed/rewritten rather than split. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 01:23, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]