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The intro currently reads "Samidoun has been restricted or designated as a terrorist group by Germany, the Netherlands, Israel, Canada, and the United States...." My issue with this is that "restricted" and "designated as a terrorist group" are very different categories of condemnation by these states.
This is particularly a problem with the United States because the US has not designated Samidoun a Foreign Terrorist Organization. It has made them a "Specially Designated National" and sanctioned them for association with designated FTOs like the PFLP. In the announcement from the Treasury Department, the only direct accusation made is that Samidoun is a "sham charity." The legal rights of SDNs and their associates differ from FTOs in material ways.
Both categories in this sentence are serious accusations, but the intro currently conflates the two categories and gives a false impression. I'm not sure how I would reword this offhand, but these designations ought to at least be split into two sentences, I think. lethargilistic (talk) 01:26, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, one sentence per category seems like a reasonable approach. Afaict, the two sources for Germany (Reuters and Federal Ministry of the Interior) only say Samidoun was banned in Germany and do not indicate that Germany designated Samidoun as a terrorist organisation. Burrobert (talk) 14:54, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the section National bans and sanctions should also be clarified in a similar way the second paragraph of the lead should be. Just pointing it out for anyone who wants to correct this. Mason7512 (talk) 20:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I took a stab at this, so let me know if you think this is good.
I have similar concerns about the Dutch source, so I added the primary source to the article. I don't read Dutch, but the reporting traces back to a translation of the Dutch source posted on Twitter by an Israeli diplomat. Their translation says that the Dutch Parliament was calling on the government to designate Samidoun a terrorist organization, not that the resolution itself had the effect of the Netherlands designating Samidoun a terrorist organization. I don't know if those are the same thing in the Dutch system, but it could use a look-see by someone more familiar or with more time. lethargilistic (talk) 20:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I got around to it. Basically, I am convinced that the October 1 resolution in the Dutch Parliament was just that: calling on the relevant government agency (i.e., not Parliament) to add Samidoun to the list of terrorist organizations. The list can be found here, and it is dated on the website October 3. The last addition to the list was The Base on January 18. Each addition links to an official publication from the Dutch Minister of Foreign Affairs announcing the decision. This is the announcement for The Base. As a reminder, this is the parliamentary resolution about Samidoun. They are clearly different. Samidoun is not on the Dutch terrorist list as of now. We should check back in a few more weeks. lethargilistic (talk) 17:41, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
