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Why should the controversy surrounding the award's founder be included in this article if it has no direct relevance to the subject? While it's true that Verzosa received a Gusi Peace Prize, the controversy involving the award's founder does not pertain to Verzosa himself. The Awards and nominations section of this article is meant to document Verzosa's accolades, not to detail unrelated controversies. AstrooKai (Talk) 08:01, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Solution is simple: the JUST PUT THE DODY NATURE of the AWARD next to any page that mentions it, as in the original page that clearly spells out the shady circumstances around the "award". Why make this so complicated? Channel 1915 (talk) 12:03, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also CONTEXT: We are talking about a personality that has been extensively accused of scamming himself... so yes, having a sketchy "award" very much fits the pattern. Let that sink in... Channel 1915 (talk) 12:04, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see where you’re coming from, but including the controversy about the award’s founder in recipients’ BLPs is WP:UNDUE. If the controversy isn’t directly connected to the recipient, why bring it up in their article? A better solution might be to describe the controversy in detail on the Gusi Peace Prize article and just wikilink to it from recipients’ pages. That way, readers interested in the background of the award can still access the full context.
I get that there are concerns about the founder’s credentials, but I don’t see how that reflects on the people receiving the award. Whether the founder posed as an ambassador doesn’t change the fact that the recipient was honored.
Is there a reason to include details about the founder’s controversy in all recipients' BLPs, even if it isn’t directly relevant to them? Also, just a quick note—typing in all caps can be seen as WP:SHOUTING, so maybe we can keep the tone more neutral to avoid misunderstandings. AstrooKai (Talk) 12:30, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sketchy politicians winning dodgy awards -- an award that has been accused of being 'bought off' essentially -- right before running for elections... nothing to see here :) Channel 1915 (talk) 14:27, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I find it concerning that you’re dismissing the award as "dodgy" simply because the founder has legal issues, and labeling politicians, including possibly Verzosa, negatively without a clear connection. Wikipedia values factual accuracy and neutrality, and unless the controversy is directly relevant to the recipient, this controversy belongs in the Gusi Peace Prize article, not Verzosa’s or other recipients' BLP. AstrooKai (Talk) 14:56, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a platform to personally synthesize. We only put what the sources say, we don't "connect the dots". I hope you understand that.
FYI, putting 'caveats' is part of encyclopaedic discourse. But again, I defer to you folks on this. thanks again for patient consideration. Channel 1915 (talk) 17:20, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Smh, as I've repeated this is a textbook case of WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. There is not media outlets even accusing that any recipient has "bought off" the award. That is just a personal speculation. I advise to publish these 'caveats' or conjectures on social media or a personal blog and hope for the best. Wikipedia is not a place to 'expose' a personality, we are really just bound to what mainstream media outlets and other RS are saying.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 11:08, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
