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Lack of metapsychic powers: Marc Remillard's ability to teleport (D-Jump?)— Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.33.1.243 (talk) 02:20, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

D-jumping is the mental ability to create what the series called a upsilon field, in which the mind provides the imputus to dimensionally jump. In the Milieu, spaceships did the same thing, only mechanically. It is an aspect of the MP ability of creativity. It has a pain component as well, the farther you jump, the more painfull it becomes. His range is extremely high though compared to spaceship jumping, having the ability to cross galatic distances, whether it is because of his own personal pain threshold or some redactive pain control is not discussed though. He does acquire the mental program for pain remediation from the Tanu redactive guild. The D-jumping ability was acquired from Felice, who was an instinctual jumper, but it required major tweaking as well as time to "learn" it and to get rid of the rubberband effect. Marc also used his CE equipement to jack up his D-jumping ability though he probably didn't really need to do it for earth bound trips. D-jumping also created EM releases which would be a major problem for large scale use.

Speculate that Felice was actually a product of the Mental Man project( or being a Remillard herself). She certainly fit the profile.99.231.175.94 (talk) 01:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This speculation is disproved in the details from the first and second books, namely that Felice Landry was born to non-meta parents described as scientists on the Canadian-colonized planet of Acadie. It is revealed in book 2 that she was brutally sexually abused by her parents which is the source of her initial dysfunction that led her to exile, which was then inflamed by Culluket's tortures into the insanity that powered her metafunctions to paramount-class levels in PK, Coercion and Creativity. Not that she was a Remillard or a Mental Man castoff.

Also, the paragraph "At the start of the story the Strait of Gibraltar is closed and the Mediterranean Sea is dry and empty. The Many Colored Land and The Golden Torc are set in Europe just before and during the rupture at Gibraltar. The rupture and the rapid filling of the Mediterranean form a Wagnerian climax to The Golden Torc, in which aliens and time-traveling humans are caught up in this cataclysm."

at the beginning of the page completely spoils a key plot point in book 2 and should NOT be among the first things that one new to the story reads! Should be moved or perhaps deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:772D:EE00:60D1:1D3B:AA0:3AF4 (talk) 00:15, 22 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Felice was never a part of Marc Mental Man plans - Both She and Denis/Fury were the only examples of spontaneous D-Jump (the intentional creation of a focused and functioning Epsilon field) and they were both insane (or worse). The genes for operancy were evolving throughout mankind where ever they were and I would ask Julian (were She still with us. RIP) about Marcs' potential influence on the original DNA material for the Non-Borns.

G. ..and where is the TV series!? :) Gary Arlett (talk) 20:23, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

.. maybe not Marcs efforts themselves .. Maybe the truly Odd Keoghs or Madelaine.. It can only ever be speculation but i so wish Julian had not condensed the War of the Rebellion into one single chapter and I would know more of the evens when the rebels went trough the Gate :) Gary Arlett (talk) 20:34, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Human Sterilization

Under Pliocene Races | Humans section it mentions that the Tanu forbid human/human procreation but does not mention that all female humans of child bearing age coming through the gate have been sterilized? The Tanu had to learn how to reverse the salpingotomy to make them fertile. KvnFlynn (talk) 14:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]