Talk:Romantic comedy/Archive 1

Archive 1

Moved from page

I've moved this sentence from the page to talk:

Romactic Comedies are also usually the subject of Ken Akumatsu's manga.

This was a single sentence paragraph, without a good connection to the article, and overly specific to one person. Perhaps a section of people who's work has been primarily romantic comedy, or influential to the genre, could be added at some point, but for now this sentence would be better in an article about the artist in question.  —siroχo 22:24, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

It doesn't matter, as not many people would classify Ken Akamatsu's manga under romantic comedy anyway. While his manga has some of the elements of a romantic comedy, the focus on the male protagonist and the potential pairing of multiple girls makes it falls into the genre of harem anime. --ColourBurst 04:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Proposed merge

I have suggested a merge into this article of the concept of Meet cute. Its usage appears to be soley in connection with romantic comedies. I would appreciate comments either in support or opposition. Mallanox 00:54, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Article was tagged for 1 month, no opposition. Merge carried out. Mallanox 00:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that the articles should have been merged until romantic comedy film had been developed more. At the very minimum, a history or treatment as good as that at screwball comedy. "Meet cute" is a device, but not specific to romantic comedy film, nor necessary to it; "grand gesture" should get equal treatment. → (AllanBz ✍ 14:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Unfortunately...

The article now appears to be more about "meet cute" than about Romantic comedy films in general. AnonMoos 09:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Added 'Pretty Woman' to list of RomComs

Sorry, but I had to. It was just silly that it wasn't there considering it's like the Queen of Romantic Comedies in the modern era. 24.60.66.216 (talk) 02:46, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Merger Proposal

I'm proposing that this page be merged with Romantic Comedy, since that page has very little on the genre and this page has quite a lot.
144.32.126.11 (talk) 11:48, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

I agree, I redirected that article to this article. TomCat4680 (talk) 19:59, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

POV claims and tag

The scathing satire Modern Times is a rom-com? The weepy romantic drama Breakfast at Tiffanty's? Most of this article seems a POV essay, and it's not encyclopedic to give users an un-vetted and, judging from this talk page and the very light archive, un-discussed list of what romantic comedies. And certainly distinction needs to be made, and the underlying aesthetic differences addressed, between screwball comedy and romantic comedy. --Tenebrae (talk) 02:09, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

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Is it still a romantic comedy if a man has a crush on a lesbian, as in Chasing Amy? --Uncle Ed (talk) 22:43, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

I don't know that was closer to unrequited love really. TomCat4680 (talk) 00:18, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Why not? Sure, most romcoms focus on a heterosexual male-female relationship relationships, but there's no reason that has to be the case. --BDD (talk) 22:05, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Related suggestion at Talk:Comedic genres#Romantic comedies --EarthFurst (talk) 12:29, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Arms And The Man

Kautilyasem-3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.2.15.137 (talk) 06:23, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Romedy?

Romedy? Romedy?? How can that be on there when 'romcom' isn't? Is this a British-American split I've never come across before? Cwbr77 (talk) 12:42, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

Untitled

Section 5, "Effects," has quite a lot of statements that seem to violate the article policies. A great deal of this content, while plausible, is not fact but opinion (contra the Neutral POV policy). And while there are some citations, much of the content is probably also unverifiable. I am not personally knowledgeable enough on the subject to rewrite it to my own satisfaction, so I'm afraid I'll have to leave that to others.

• Also, the "fairy-tale wedding is practically mandatory" description conveys derision with the genre and thus also violates Wikipedia objectivity standards. See the "meet cute" for a trope considered silly by many which is yet written about objectively, not revealing the attitudes of the editor. Critical points of view are meant to be restricted to sections on criticism, cultural legacy, and so on, and cannot be those of the editor himself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeletaylor (talk • contribs) 22:21, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

2602:306:BDA2:72F0:88BD:7093:58EE:7552 (talk) 06:43, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Requested move 14 March 2018

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved as requested per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 05:49, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

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Romantic comedy film → Romantic comedy – To reflect on the fact that this genre isn't strictly related to films; there are so many works in this genre that are not films (see Category:Romantic comedy). --Kailash29792 (talk) 05:44, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

• Support - its a more WP:CONCISE, WP:COMMONNAME and also allows the topic to expand to include rom-coms in television (List of romantic comedy television series) and potentially other media as well. -- Netoholic @ 08:26, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
• Support - Per nom._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 01:51, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

They are perfect

I just think they are perfect Together 2600:8803:4006:3B00:54A6:D9EA:9D09:7CA (talk) 01:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)

Rewrite/removal of "Effects of Romantic comedies" section

I have replaced the "Effects of Romantic comedies" section.

The original text (including the subsection on the study, which was removed a few edits ago) is included at the bottom of this post. It has been replaced with: There have been at least two studies conducted that examined the effect of watching romantic comedies on individuals' perceptions of romance and long-term relationships.

Reasons

My reasons for replacing the section:

• the two studies mentioned in the linked article are old (1990s and 2008); no further research appears to have been published on this topic by the original researchers
• the hypothesis presented in the section is not specific to romantic comedies; the researcher for the 1990s study has also looked at sit-coms and romances through this lens
• the research (based on the two studies and the linked articles) is inconclusive; to take a quotation from one of the articles: "Galician [the researcher]...says uncovering conscious and subconscious romantic motivation is a difficult process, and the role of movies is uncertain. She points to the vexing debate over the effects of violent movies, which some researchers argue encourage aggression, while "others argue just as persuasively that [simulated violence] provides a safe release for human aggression."" source
• the section appears to violate Wikipedia's requirement of neutrality (specifically, it appears to put undue weight on a research hypothesis that is not well established)

I note that it was suggested that this section be rewritten in 2016. Link to Talk history here This suggestion was auto-archived in 2021.

Information that may be relevant:

• I did find a master's thesis on this topic from 2011; it is not linked to in the original section; I have not read it. Link here
• One of the linked articles made no reference to any studies; it cited an interview with a woman who states: "Romantic movies make you think your relationship is supposed to be so amazing, passionate and exciting all the time. My marriage isn’t like that, and sometimes I wonder if something’s wrong." This article does not contain content and so I did not include it as one of the citations. Link here I was unable to access the Telegraph article (locked) and so also do not include it. I note that it is also dated from 2008, and so is likely about the same studies.

Original section:

On society today

With the increase of romantic comedy movies, there has been an apparent change in the way society views romance. Researchers are asking whether the romances projected in romantic comedies are preventing true love in real life. The increase in use of technology has also led the society to spend a great amount of time engaging in mediated reality and less time with each other. Even though researchers have only started to explore the impact of romantic comedy films on human romance, the few studies conducted have already shown correlation between romantic comedies and the love delusion. Romantic comedies are very popular. They depict relationships that some scholars think affect how people view relationships outside of this virtual world.

The illusion of love

In the past, love has not always been the real reason for people coming together. In some cultures, arranged marriages were common to adhere to and propagate caste systems or to join kingdoms. Today, love is the root of all romance, and it is over-emphasized through these films. It tells viewers that love conquers all and will ultimately bring a never-ending happiness that is rarely affected by any conflict. When people do not experience the romance portrayed in these movies, they often wonder what they are doing wrong. Although people should be able to tell between an overly romanticized love and realistic love, they are often caught up in constantly trying to echo the stories they see on screen. While most know that the idea of a perfect relationship is unrealistic, some perceptions of love are heavily influenced by media portrayals.

Conducted research

A study was conducted at Heriot Watt University in Edinburgh to understand this phenomenon. They studied 40 top box-office films released between 1995 and 2005 to establish common themes. Then they asked hundreds of people to complete a questionnaire to describe their beliefs and expectations in romantic relationships. Researchers found that people who enjoyed movies such as You’ve Got Mail, The Wedding Planner, and While You Were Sleeping often failed to communicate with their partners effectively. They also believe that if someone is meant to be with you, then they should know your needs without you telling them. Although this study is just one of a handful, it shows a correlation of how people's expectations are distorted through watching romantic comedies. 4Vu63KxR (talk) 07:43, 17 March 2022 (UTC)