Talk:Robyn Smith

A fact from Robyn Smith appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 7 March 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that in 1973, jockey Robyn Smith won a race while riding a horse named after her?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:41, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that, in 1975, Robyn Smith became the first female jockey to win three races in one afternoon?~~ [1]
- ALT1:... that Robyn Smith prevented the Kennedy Center from using footage of her late husband Fred Astaire in their 1992 tribute to Ginger Rogers? [2]
- ALT2:... that no birth record exists of Robyn Smith? [3]

Created by Kncny11 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:26, 12 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]

I will pick this up momentarily. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 05:56, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria for DYK (Newness, length). Well sourced and written with a NPOV. Copyvio is good [4]. Feedback on the hooks are as below. QPQ is not required. If that is not accurate, please let me know. Ktin (talk) 06:27, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback on ALT0 -- The NYT source says "It was the first time three victories had been registered by a woman on a major New York track." There is a qualifier "on a major NY track".
Feedback on ALT1 -- The Baltimore link is not opening for me, I am being redirected to the homepage. Please can you check and help.
Feedback on ALT2 -- Looks good. SI source says The bald facts are that there is no record of any Robyn Caroline Smith (or anyone like that) born in San Francisco when she claims—Aug. 14, 1944, nor for several years on either side of that date. Nor does any person with that name seem to have attended school in Hawaii, where Robyn says she grew up.
Passing back to the nominator for next steps. Can I also request another pass at the lede. Also, the External links has an IMDB link. Is that the same person? Seems like a different person. Cheers Ktin (talk) 06:27, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktin: Lede has been rewritten and IMDb link has been removed. It seemed to be the same person, albeit filled with nonsense. Fine with the qualifier on ALT0. The link for ALT1 opens for me just fine -- this link and this one also reference the Kennedy Center incident. Kncny11 (talk) 06:46, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kncny11:. Thanks. I struck out ALT0. Approving ALT1 and ALT2. Can I also request you to add the LA Times link to the article's sentence corresponding to hook ALT1. Will approve both of ALT1 and ALT2 -- you have any preference between the two? Regarding ALT2 -- I have seen two schools of thought, one that takes creative (not factual) liberties with the hook to make it more hooky, and the other that goes pure factual and literal. This hook falls in the former. E.g. there surely has to be a birth record somewhere, right? Just that it is not of a person with that name, born on that date, in that city. I just wanted to acknowledge that one, while approving the hook. Ktin (talk) 07:08, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ktin: Link has been added to article as requested. I have a slight preference for ALT2, because it centers Robyn and no her husband, but I provided both just in case there was a problem with one or the other (ALT1 being slightly mean, if factual, and ALT2 being generally absurd). Kncny11 (talk) 15:20, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kncny11: wonderful. Thanks. Adding tick. Note to promoter / Admin: I agree with the nominator. We have a slight preference for ALT2 over ALT1 though ALT2 does take a few creative liberties. ALT1 is approved as well. Please feel free to promote as appropriate. Thanks to the nominator for a nice article. Ktin (talk) 15:24, 13 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Date of birth

There seems to be disagreement among sources about Smith's date of birth. Please verify and add citations to d:Q3437315#P569. Daask (talk) 14:02, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]