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... that three-time Pizza Hut All-American Rich Romer later worked as an engineer?

Source: Pizza Hut, engineer

ALT1: ... that NFL player Rich Romer was a three-time Pizza Hut All-American? Source: Pizza Hut
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5x expanded by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:24, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Great work on the article! Both hooks are interesting and verified as being sourced in the article. ALT0 relies on this source to say he worked as an engineer. According to the About Us page for the East Greenbush Education Foundation, "The East Greenbush Education Foundation, Inc. is an audited 501(c)(3) non-profit organization whose sole purpose is to raise funds to support student achievement. Founded in 1985 and located in East Greenbush, NY, the Foundation is governed by a volunteer Board of Directors." I think this is a marginally reliable source. If there are concerns that this source is insufficiently reliable, I recommend using ALT1 instead. Cunard (talk) 07:38, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- WikiOriginal-9, this hook is somewhat incomprehensible if you're not from the States. More clarity would be nice, or another hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'm not sure of a way to reword All-American if that's the issue. We can just decline this. That's fine. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:04, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    - It's more the combination of "Pizza Hut" and "All-American" that is confusing. I've read the article and I'm still not sure what it means. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:42, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      - It means he was named an All-American by Pizza Hut (Pizza Hut used to select All-American teams for some reason). ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        So it's just a sponsorship thing, like the EFL Cup being called the Carabao Cup? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:21, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        I'm not sure if Pizza Hut was necessarily a sponsor, they might not have been. The Associated Press names All-American teams and they aren't a sponsor. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 01:51, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Here are some possible angles, seeing if a compromise can be made regarding the Pizza Hut mention, or if something else could be done here.

ALT2 ... that American football player Rich Romer was thrice selected as an All-American by Pizza Hut?

ALT3 ... that following his NFL career, Rich Romer worked in an anti-drugs and anti-drunk driving program?

Even the article's treatment of the Pizza Hut thing is confusing. It mentions both second teams and first teams: is there a difference or are they still called Pizza Hut All-Americans? It also mentions that he was named an All-American by multiple entities and not just Pizza Hut, so limiting it to just Pizza Hut, while accurate, also seems confusing. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:01, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiOriginal-9: Pinging for the above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:23, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with either of those hooks. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 16:29, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging Cunard and AirshipJungleman29 regarding the new hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:08, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]