Talk:Revolt of 1 Prairial Year III

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Potential copyvio

The text in this article based on Lefebvre works is a word for word “copy paste” of the original. This is true both for the Revolution series source and the Thermidoreans source. These sources are from 1964 (not 1963 as given in citation) and 1967 respectively, and both have copyright notices, which means they are not in public domain. Volunteer Marek 22:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I can’t check Rude and Woronoff but given the peculiar prose (wikipedia editors don’t write in this highly dramatic over the top fashion, and neither do most historians these days for that matter), I’m guessing these are word for words copy pasted as well. Volunteer Marek 22:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Volunteer Marek, Nice catch, when you see sentences like "Why were the Parisian sans-culottes defeated in May 1795?", that's good reason to be suspicious of a xerox job. I was able to access both of those and verified wholesale copying; only the first two sentences aren't copied, as far as I can tell.

The text was added by Nivose (talk · contribs) in 2012; they have a little over 500 edits to mainspace and haven't edited since 2017. Their other contributions are very suspect as well; I'm currently looking at Insurrection of 12 Germinal Year III and can see a lot of copying. This will probably need a small CCI; fortunately, they site their sources and the pastes are pretty obvious. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 04:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Moneytrees - also take a look at Demonstration of 20 June 1792 and really any “minor” article by Nivose, especially ones of the “event of # month 179x” format, or ones where Lefebvre is used. Volunteer Marek 05:18, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This one too: Insurrection of 10 August 1792 although it had more subsequent editing potentially diluting the COPYVIO. Also there at least one of the sources being copy-pasted, Mathiez, is from 1929 so should be in public domain. I checked Thompson 1959 and those parts are definitely word for word. Volunteer Marek 05:25, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Insurrection of 31 May – 2 June 1793 Volunteer Marek 05:34, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Volunteer Marek I've now opened a CCI at Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Nivose; fortunately, I don't think cleanup should take too long, given how blatant the pastes are. Moneytrees🏝️(Talk) 18:21, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]