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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Ray Brown (Negro leagues pitcher) → Ray Brown (baseball) – Per WP:INCDAB a move discussion is necessary. INCDAB states: In individual cases consensus may determine that a parenthetically disambiguated title that is still ambiguous has a primary topic, but the threshold for identifying a primary topic for such titles is higher than for a title without parenthetical disambiguation. As with any other term with a primary topic, it should either be the title of the article for that topic or redirect to it. There are 2 Ray Brown baseball players, both pitchers: this one, a Hall of Fame Negro league pitcher; and Ray Brown (National League pitcher) who pitched 1 game for the Cubs in 1909. The pageviews (Negro league pitcher & Natinal League pitcher) over the last year are 3428:170, or ~20:1, which is about what it takes according to List of reported partially disambiguated article titles and their characteristics. I am arguing this Ray Brown is the primary baseball player topic (under WP:PT1) because it is highly likely [...] to be the topic sought when a reader searches for that term. -- BX (talk) 00:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know that a move discussion is ever made necessary by the idea that partial disambiguation can exist (in fact I am not really convinced that the RFC linked there showed the consensus that has been attributed to it), and this is highlighted by the fact that it is unlikely that a reader will search for "Ray Brown (baseball)" instead of "Ray Brown" (15 pageviews total in the last 18 months). At any rate the disambiguator would be "(pitcher)", not "(baseball)". Dekimasuよ!01:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
INCDABs usually don't stick unless there is an accompnying RM discussion, from what I derived from WP:INCDAB & WP:PDAB due to the higher threshold & local consensus. Rgrds. --BX (talk) 03:55, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, largely since the National League pitcher article arguably is AFD-bait as it doesn't assert notability nor have sources beyond statistics databases. Even if it was cleaned up with some forgotten 1909 article, I suspect the notability is so tiny for a one-game player that INCDAB is fine. SnowFire (talk) 05:30, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
