Talk:Ralph W. Moss (writer)

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This page was proposed for deletion by 86.176.222.245 (talk · contribs) on 7 October 2011 with the comment:
Not really covered in reliable sources.
It was contested by DGG (talk · contribs) on 14 October 2011 with the comment:
seems sufficient sources

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. SPhilbrick T 13:09, 27 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ralph W. Moss (science writer) → Ralph W. Moss — This is the most notable article under this name, as well as the topic that comes up first in a google search. —focus 03:36, 3 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Sources

I'm concerned that much of the sources are basically self published by the subject of the article. A lot of the information seems to be not all that notable as part of an encyclopedia article - why exactly is it important to list the location of clinics he's visited? Yobol (talk) 01:33, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that this article can probably be improved, as an encyclopedic biography, by focusing more on the content of independent, reliable sources. Personally, I think an encyclopedic, well-sourced stub would be preferable to a longer article that relies heavily on self-published material. Alternately, much of the notable information here could be covered in the history section of our laetrile article (leaving this as a redirect), since much of the third-party coverage, such as it is, deals with Moss' role in the Sloan-Kettering laetrile controversy. MastCell ^Talk 19:14, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've had a really hard time trying to find independent sources discussing him; most books/websites/etc. are true-believer alt med sources. I've therefore stubbed down most of the self-published material until we find more independent sources. Yobol (talk) 01:30, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dingle case

Regarding sources, it appears that the Moss Reports were mentioned in the coroner's inquest into the death of Penelope Dingle, an Australian woman who died of rectal cancer after declining potentially curative medical therapy in favor of alternative approaches:

Dr Dingle [the deceased patient's husband] placed considerable reliance on what was described as the “Moss Report” at the inquest. It appears that the author, Ralph Moss PhD, has available on the internet access to a number of sites dealing with various medical conditions, the relevant one being "the Moss Reports Rectum". This report had been downloaded by Dr Dingle at considerable cost and was repeatedly referred to by him in his evidence.
This report was reviewed by Dr Guy Van Hazel, Clinical Professor School of Medicine and Pharmacology, University of Western Australia, who expressed the view that much of the report was, “Basically a – what seems to be an advertisement for alternative medicine”. Professor Van Hazel went on to state that the report was both unreliable and out of date as well as being full of factual errors. ([1], pp. 73–74)

I'm not sure whether this is suitable for the article, as it's a bit tangential and arguably a primary source, but given the profound lack of reliable, independent third-party sources in this article I thought I'd raise the question here. MastCell ^Talk 20:05, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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