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I am a regular Radio New Zealand listener and visitor to their website and social media accounts. I noticed that their content refers to the organisation as "RNZ" and rarely uses the name "Radio New Zealand." I am proposing renaming the article RNZ and turning the Radio New Zealand namespace into a redirect page. RNZ seems to be following a similar trend as other media organisations such as TVNZ, ABC News, ABC News (Australia), NPR, PBS and BBC. Wanted to get feedback before I go ahead. Andykatib (talk) 22:43, 12 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is it a fairly recent change? I don't listen all that often to them, but I've never heard other people refer to them as RNZ - it's always been Radio New Zealand. In comparison, almost almost everyone refers to Television New Zealand as TVNZ. I'd suggest waiting a while to see if it is commonly used outside the organisation before moving it. 2001:4530:2:E07:FFFF:FFFF:FFFF:FFFD (talk) 00:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that RNZ is the more common, but I don’t think it’s quite at the same level as the other orgs you listed, except maybe NPR. I don’t think that it quite passes the litmus test of being definitely more recognisable as the acronym. Of course guidance at: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Abbreviations#Acronyms in page titles and Wikipedia:Article titles#Article title format. — HTGS (talk) 04:45, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 14 December 2024

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Radio New ZealandRNZ – RNZ calls itself "RNZ" on its website and YouTube channel.

The media usually calls it "RNZ". Examples:[1][2][3] None of these sources even call it "Radio New Zealand". ―Panamitsu (talk) 00:15, 14 December 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. cyberdog958Talk 14:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose per MOS:ACROTITLE: “In general, if readers somewhat familiar with the subject are likely to only recognise the name by its acronym, then the acronym should be used as a title.” The threshold here is not merely which version is more common. It’s easiest to understand with something like BBC, where you can imagine surveying people and finding a significant portion of the population struggle to remember what the C stands for. With our radio station here, all listeners will understand both, but naïve readers (think Americans) who don’t know the subject will understand it better/quicker if it’s spelled out. — HTGS (talk) 08:16, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: ealand Wikipedians' notice board has been notified of this discussion. cyberdog958Talk 14:46, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support I can definitely see the rationale as to HTGS' oppose comment, but I'm leaning the other way on this. The move from "Radio New Zealand" to "RNZ" was a conscious one back in 2015 (see here) and it's basically only been known by the acronym since. A quick look around some similar sources worldwide (eg. BBC, NPR, PBS and ABC (Australia) (not to mention TVNZ) show that only the ABC is at its full name, presumably for WP:NATURAL reasons. I'm fairly satisfied that RNZ is now the common name for the organisation rather than its original full name. Turnagra (talk) 17:26, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support I am a regular Radio New Zealand listener and visitor to their website. The broadcasters almost always refer to it as RNZ rather than its longer name. They sometimes refer to it by its Māori language name Te Reo Irirangi o Aotearoa but haven't heard them refer to it as "Radio New Zealand" for a long time. Happy to have Radio New Zealand as a redirect page. Andykatib 01:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]