Talk:Punch list

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Merge proposals

Propose a merge with Snagging to bring what is essentially the same process on both side of the pond together, no point in having separate articles for faucet and tap - their may be slightly different legal and procedural aspects so we should maintain the geographic separation in the article under US and UK headings. Tom-ay-toe To-maar-toe --Mcginnly | Natter 02:55, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes merge them. They are the same term. Punch list is widespread in US and European construction industries. The disagreement suggests that there is a development of the term snagging underway and this fills out the meaning. Jmldalton 20:40, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree

Snagging is a major source of conflict between developers and homebuyers in the UK - see snagging.org. This is not clear from the definition which should reflect this. Snagging is often covered in the British and Irish media. I don't think the same can be said of punch list.

Additionally, Snagging is a term that is starting to be used outside the construction industry to mean defect identification and resolution e.g. software development. This may be due to the profile in the media.

If there is to be a merge, punch list should be merged with snagging. Snagging.org 11:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Additionaly - There is a degree of difference in the lists contents. A punch list often contains unfinished items from the original contract i.e. missing/incomplete netwrok or mains sockets etc and is normally dealt with prior to the building being officially opened, whereas a snag list is more common with defects in the build itself once it has been completed i.e. cracks in walls, poorly installed fittings, and is often dealt with over the months following a buildings completion and use.

Agreed that a merge should be with snagging as the main subject if at all.

Disagree that snagging and punchlist should be merged at all. In the US snagging is a total non-starter; no one has heard of it.

Clarity needed in the intro

Is a punch list the same as a snag list? If 'not quite synonymous', this should be outlined in the first sentence. --86.12.160.194 (talk) 14:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Punch list vs deficiency list

I have always considered that Deficiency Lists/Reports are prepared by the Architect/Project Manager/Owners' Representative and submitted to the General Contractor for remediation. Whereas Punch Lists are generated by the General Contractor and submitted to the Sub Contractors/Trades for remediation. ChrisHAu (talk) 18:05, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Punch List derivation

As I understand it, Punch Lists started way way back before the advent of current communications technology. Lists of deficiencies were written on pieces of paper [or perhaps maybe even parchment]; an original and multiple copies, as required, by hand or carbon paper, or photocopy in later years. The General Contractor would keep the original and issue copies to the corresponding subs/trades. As each item on the list was completed, the GC would take the sub's copy of the list, align it under his original, and punch a hole, presumably with a nail, next to the item. If in subsequent review the holes did not align, then it was an indication of fraud. ChrisHAu (talk) 18:19, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]